Transformative Grace: A Deep Dive into Romans 12
The focal point of today’s discourse at Middletown Baptist Church, led by Pastor Josh Massaro, centers on Romans chapter 12, specifically verses 14 through 16. In this segment, the Apostle Paul elucidates the challenging yet imperative call for Christians to embody grace through their responses to persecution and adversity. The exhortation to bless those who persecute us is presented not merely as a passive refrain from retaliation, but rather as an active engagement of grace—an audacious act of desiring good for those who may wish us harm. We delve into the transformative nature of Christian love, which compels believers to rejoice with those who experience joy and to empathize with those who suffer. Ultimately, this episode serves as a clarion call for a profound shift in perspective, urging us to cultivate a mindset reflective of Christ’s love and humility towards one another.
Takeaways:
- The essence of Christian living is not merely about trying harder, but rather about seeking transformation from within through the grace of God.
- To bless those who persecute us is a radical call that challenges our natural inclination towards retaliation and resentment.
- Genuine empathy requires us to rejoice with those who experience joy, transcending our own circumstances and fostering community.
- Paul emphasizes the importance of humility, urging us to view others as equals and refrain from elevating ourselves above them.
00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Introduction to Romans 12
05:11 - Transforming Grace: A Call to Bless Our Persecutors
24:26 - Responding to Persecution: A Christian's Call to Blessing
30:21 - The Value of Connection in Rejoicing and Weeping
45:25 - The Transformation Process of Love
So today we are in Romans, chapter 12.
Speaker AIf you'd like to follow along with us here, I would encourage you to look into the Bible with us.
Speaker AWe're going to be in verse number 14 this morning.
Speaker AThat's where we're going to start.
Speaker AAnd our goal today is to cover verses 14, 15, and 16.
Speaker AWe've been looking here at what Paul is describing as a life characterized by the grace of God.
Speaker AAnd we're called to present our bodies, our lives, a living sacrifice wholly acceptable unto God, which is our reasonable or logical service.
Speaker AAnd now he's describing to us what that looks like.
Speaker AHe's talked about the gifts that are given to us by God to use within the body.
Speaker AHe's talked to us about the authentic love that we're called to display because we have received the love of God.
Speaker AAnd now he's going to talk about some difficult things that we might struggle with within our Christian life, because the things that we're going to talk about today are not easy.
Speaker AAnd I'm actually going to go a step further and say in the flesh, the things that we discuss here this morning are impossible.
Speaker AAnd what this is not this morning is a list of rules that Paul is laying out for us to check the box and say, okay, I'm going to work harder on this.
Speaker AI'm going to work harder on this.
Speaker AI'm going to work harder on this.
Speaker AAnd then hopefully I'll get there.
Speaker AThis is not a list of rules to be a better Christian.
Speaker AWhat this is all about is seeing God work in our hearts and transform us.
Speaker ASo it's two words I want you to think about in contrast to each other.
Speaker AOne is the word try or trying.
Speaker AA lot of Christians say, well, I'm trying to be a better person.
Speaker AI'm trying to serve God.
Speaker AI'm trying to love.
Speaker AI. I'm trying to forgive.
Speaker AAnd that's what this passage is all about.
Speaker ABut then I think the more biblical answer, the answer that I see in Scripture is not to try harder, but to be transformed to be more like Christ.
Speaker ASo two words, trying and transforming.
Speaker AOur prayer as Christians should be not to try harder and God reward that effort, but our prayer should be to, lord, please transform me so that it's an inside change that manifests itself on the outside.
Speaker AWe know that because we go back to Romans 12:2, and he says, and be not conformed to this world.
Speaker AThe idea of that conformity is maybe some of you have experienced this with your children.
Speaker AIt's the idea of Plato being pushed into a mold Clay being molded into a certain image.
Speaker AAnd what the world tries to do is say, you know what?
Speaker AIt's okay that you feel this way.
Speaker AIt's okay that you respond this way.
Speaker AIt's okay that you don't love the way that you're supposed to love.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause I can justify it.
Speaker ABecause life is all about me.
Speaker ABut no, that's not what he says in verse two.
Speaker AHe says, don't be conformed to this world and the ways of this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Speaker AThe Bible here says that we're to be transformed.
Speaker AWe're to be changed.
Speaker AThe idea here would be metamorphosis.
Speaker AThat's a big word.
Speaker AAnd we have the kids in the room here today, and that's a word that you can take with you and tell your science teacher at school.
Speaker AMetamorphosis.
Speaker AIt's the idea of being transformed.
Speaker AA little caterpillar crawls up onto a branch and forms a cocoon or chrysalis.
Speaker AAnd then a certain amount of time passes.
Speaker AThey change their form inside of that.
Speaker AThey break out.
Speaker AAnd obviously now they're not a caterpillar, but they're a butterfly.
Speaker AAnd that's what the Bible says, is that as a believer, we are changed from the way that we used to be to the way that we are now in Christ.
Speaker AHe says, be transformed by what?
Speaker AWell, verse two tells us, by the renewing of your mind, the changing of your mind, the washing of your mind, the cleansing of your mind.
Speaker AAnd it's not just about thinking a little bit differently, but it's thinking completely differently.
Speaker AAnd how do we do that?
Speaker AHow do we think and respond?
Speaker AWell, it says here, because it's the will of God, and God comes into our life, verse 3, and gives us grace and.
Speaker AAnd God gives us hope, and God gives us forgiveness.
Speaker AAnd then now we're called to live this way, not because we're trying harder, but because we're allowing and.
Speaker AAnd submitting ourselves to God so that he can transform us in the way that we live.
Speaker ABecause the reason I say all of that is that this morning the verses that we read are going to be very difficult for our human minds to comprehend.
Speaker AOur culture is not going to understand these verses.
Speaker AAnd the fact that we live in our culture, it's going to seem somewhat grading and, and offensive to hear these verses.
Speaker ABut with all that being said, let's go to verse 14 and verse 14, 15, and 16 and even further on in this passage, Paul gives us these little short statements.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe gives us These thoughts, these phrases.
Speaker AAnd I want to break down each one of these phrases and actually break down every word.
Speaker AAnd we want to see this morning what this means for us.
Speaker AHow can we grow in these areas?
Speaker AHow can we frame our mind to be renewed in this new way of thinking as a Christian who follows Christ and not as a person who follows the world or follows the flesh?
Speaker AVerse 14, he says, Bless them which persecute you.
Speaker ARight there.
Speaker AHere it is.
Speaker AThat's the hard phrase.
Speaker AWe start out with the hardest thing.
Speaker ASometimes it's better just to start out with a harder thing to get it over with.
Speaker AThe Bible says here in verse 14, that we are to bless them which persecute you.
Speaker ABless and curse not.
Speaker AWhat is he saying here?
Speaker AWhat.
Speaker AWhat does this mean?
Speaker AWell, this parallels another passage of Scripture in the Book of Matthew that we read this morning when Jesus is preaching on the Sermon on the Mount.
Speaker AAnd we're going to get to that here in a few moments.
Speaker ABut he says here in verse 14, bless them which persecute you.
Speaker ATo bless means to speak or desire good toward someone.
Speaker AIt carries the idea of asking God's favor upon them rather than wishing harm on them.
Speaker AIt's not just about restraint.
Speaker ASo some people read this passage and say, well, you know what?
Speaker AWhen someone does something wrong to me, I'm just not going to do anything bad back.
Speaker AAnd even though that's part of it, it's not just about restraint.
Speaker AThe Christian life is not just about restraint.
Speaker AIt's about grace.
Speaker AWhat is grace?
Speaker AGiving something to someone that they don't deserve.
Speaker AThe Bible says here that that person who is persecuting us doesn't deserve our blessing.
Speaker ABut what the Bible says is that we're to extend that grace and bless them.
Speaker ANow, this doesn't mean that we do good to them so that they can keep enabling us.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat's not what this is saying.
Speaker AWhat this is saying is it's really tied to the Christian response to an enemy.
Speaker AAnd it's not just about passive restraint, but it's about active grace.
Speaker AMost commentators believe that the idea of blessing someone who persecutes us is the idea of praying for them.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe idea of allowing God to change them, because really that's what they need instead of me saying someone is persecuting me.
Speaker ASo you know what I'm going to do?
Speaker AYou know what the world tells me to do?
Speaker APersecute them.
Speaker AIf they're coming against me, I'm going to come against them.
Speaker AThe Bible says the idea would be the Christian framework of Mine would be that those who are persecuting me, those who are doing wrong to me, my desire for them is that God changes them.
Speaker AMy desire for them is that they experience the love and the forgiveness and the peace of God, because that's truly the answer to the problem that they're facing.
Speaker AWe're going to see later on in verse 17, he says, don't recompense evil for evil.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause that just keeps producing more evil.
Speaker AHis idea here is this.
Speaker ATo change the situation, God needs to come on the scene.
Speaker AAnd so we bless them.
Speaker ABecause the greatest blessing that a person can have is that they know Jesus, that they understand the love of Christ and the forgiveness that he gives them.
Speaker ASo he says here, when someone hurts us, our first question shouldn't be, how can I get even?
Speaker ABecause that's the flesh.
Speaker ABut the first question should be, how can I respond in a way that reflects Christ?
Speaker AIf someone does something wrong to me, they say something against me.
Speaker AAnd really, this word persecution in this passage is a broad category.
Speaker AIt's not just someone who physically persecutes.
Speaker AIt's maybe something that someone says to us or something that someone does to us.
Speaker AMaybe not physically, but emotionally or maybe verbally.
Speaker ABut nonetheless, it says here that we are to pray and we are to desire something good for them.
Speaker AAnd it fits exactly with what Jesus says in Matthew, chapter 5, verse 44.
Speaker ABecause I've heard people say, yeah, that's Paul's teaching, but that wouldn't be what?
Speaker AI only follow Jesus.
Speaker AWell, if you say that, first of all, Paul and Jesus are always going to agree because ultimately the Holy Spirit inspires the word of God.
Speaker AAnd so Romans is always going to agree with Matthew.
Speaker ALuke is always going to agree with First Corinthians.
Speaker AWe see that there's that unity of the Word.
Speaker ABut I do want you to see here, even In Matthew chapter 5, what Jesus says about this very same passage, this very same thinking, this very same Response.
Speaker AMatthew, chapter 5, verse 43.
Speaker AHe says, Ye have heard that it had been said, thou shalt love thy neighbor and hate thine enemy.
Speaker AJesus is reminding them of something that they already know, something that they've already heard.
Speaker AIn their culture, it was the norm to love those who are close to you, to love those who are loving to you.
Speaker ABut then what they would have been told in their culture was this.
Speaker AYou can completely and freely hate those who are your enemy, Right?
Speaker AIf they're your enemy, obviously hate them, obviously be mean to them, obviously do bad to them.
Speaker AThat was the culture.
Speaker AThat was the prevailing thought process back 2,000 years ago.
Speaker AAnd I would argue it's a prevailing thought process today.
Speaker AAnd Jesus says something further, though.
Speaker AHe says verse 44, but I say unto you, you have heard it said.
Speaker ABut I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you.
Speaker AThere it is.
Speaker AJesus says the same thing that Paul is saying.
Speaker AHe says, those that come against you, those that persecute you, you should desire to do good unto them.
Speaker AHe says, do good to them that hate you and pray for them.
Speaker AThat's why we see this connection with prayer.
Speaker APray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you.
Speaker AHe talks a little bit more about what it means to be mature.
Speaker AAnd at the very end he says, be therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Speaker AThat idea perfect means whole, complete, fully mature.
Speaker ASo for a Christian to grow in spiritual maturity would mean that we understand the importance of doing good to those that have done wrong to us.
Speaker AAgain, it doesn't justify the wrong.
Speaker ALet me be very clear here this morning.
Speaker ATo bless those that persecute you does not mean that I'm going to overlook their sin in their life, that I'm going to overlook the abuse that they did to me or maybe to another person.
Speaker AI'm going to overlook the evil that they said.
Speaker ANo, that's not what this is saying.
Speaker AThis is not justifying their evil.
Speaker AThis is what this is saying is, is that I am not going to allow the evil that they are doing to dictate to me how I am going to respond back to them or to others.
Speaker ALet me give you an example of this.
Speaker ALet's say this morning I won't use my children as an example because they're in here today.
Speaker AAnd my kids say, don't use me as an example.
Speaker ASo I won't use my kids as an example.
Speaker ABut let's say I was walking up into church and I was having a good day.
Speaker AEverything was going my way.
Speaker AI prayed this morning, I read my Bible, I got my favorite breakfast.
Speaker AI had my coffee in hand.
Speaker AI mean, everything lined up for me.
Speaker AAnd I was feeling good about life and I was joyful in the Lord, and I was looking to bless someone today.
Speaker AAnd I walk up and someone's walking up to church with me and they look at me and they say something that cuts deep, man.
Speaker AMaybe they said, you're really wearing that today.
Speaker AOr.
Speaker AOr maybe they say something even further.
Speaker AI can't believe that you did this or whatever it is.
Speaker ABut they actually, maybe even actively come against us and say, Something negative, maybe even they lie about us.
Speaker AWe could look at that evil that they do to us and we can respond in really two different ways.
Speaker AWe could respond in a way that says, you know what, I'm going to reciprocate that evil back to them.
Speaker AAnd actually that's going to ruin me for the rest of the day.
Speaker AAnd I'm just going to be no help to anyone.
Speaker AI'm going to be angry, I'm going to be short, I'm going to be all these different levels of bitter in my life.
Speaker AAnd you know what?
Speaker AThat's just because that person did that and I'm blaming that person for the wrongs that I'm doing.
Speaker AOr I could say, yes, that person did that.
Speaker ABut I'm not going to allow their evil, their speech, to dictate my evil in my life.
Speaker AI'm not going to use that as an excuse.
Speaker AI'm not going to use that as any reason to get away from where God has me to be.
Speaker AThat's what Paul is saying here.
Speaker AHe says, don't allow the persecution to get to a place in your life where you're persecuting that person or others around you.
Speaker AAnd so the Christian doesn't merely refuse to return evil, though.
Speaker AThe Christian responds to evil with a gospel focused goodness that's only seen through blessing someone, not just holding back, cursing someone.
Speaker ASomeone curses me, I curse them.
Speaker AWell, that's one part of it.
Speaker ABut the other part, as we see here in Romans chapter 12, is that we're actually to go further and bless that person.
Speaker ASo the first step is restraint to go back with me to Romans chapter 12, he says in verse number 15, Excuse me, verse 14, bless them which persecute you.
Speaker ABless and curse not.
Speaker AThe curse not is the restraint that God gives us in his strength and his power to not do what our flesh wants us to do.
Speaker ASo restraint is me not saying something evil back restraint is me not allowing that evil to be reciprocated with another aspect of evil.
Speaker ABut then there's something more here.
Speaker AIt says and bless.
Speaker ASo the first step of this Christian growth is restraint.
Speaker ABut the second step is Christ likeness by reciprocating not evil, but giving good them which persecute you.
Speaker AThat phrase there keeps ringing in my mind.
Speaker AI don't know if you have a person in mind or a group of people in mind, but I think all of us have something in our minds of what that persecution is.
Speaker AAnd the truth is, is that there are people who are actively doing something evil against Christians in the world.
Speaker AWe, we know that if you look in the news, maybe you don't see it in the news, but there's active physical persecution for Christians in this world.
Speaker AThere are people that are dying for their faith.
Speaker AIf you didn't know that, it's time to wake up.
Speaker AThere are people dying for being Christians in this world today.
Speaker ANow, thankfully in America, we aren't facing that.
Speaker AIt's not a guarantee that that will always be the way that it is.
Speaker ABut right now in America, we can live as Christians and we're not facing death, but there are levels of persecution and sometimes in the world that we live in, we can say certain things about God and there's verbal persecution.
Speaker ASo the command becomes powerful when he deals with who we're actually supposed to bless.
Speaker AIt's not just those people that give us a side eye or someone who isn't loving us actively, but no, it's actually someone who is persecuting us.
Speaker AAnd so the command becomes so powerful because we see that it's not just about tolerating other people, but it's actually blessing them.
Speaker AWhat I would say in application is this Christian love is tested really in the clearest sense when the other person has not treated us lovingly.
Speaker AJesus even says back in Matthew chapter five, that's what the publicans do.
Speaker AThe publicans love people who love them.
Speaker ALike, it's not hard for me to be kind to someone who was kind to me.
Speaker AThat's the norm of the world now.
Speaker AWhat's the context of the publican?
Speaker AThe publican was seen as the lowest in society.
Speaker AI mean, they were traitors.
Speaker ANo one in Jewish culture would have liked a publican because he would have joined up with Rome.
Speaker AHe would have been a traitor.
Speaker ASo for Jesus to say that's what the publicans do, the people would have completely understood that.
Speaker AThey would have said, well, yeah, okay, a bad guy can love someone who loves them.
Speaker ASo Jesus says the true test of our Christ likeness is not just when people are kind to us.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's easy to mirror Christlike attributes in our life when everybody is on the same pages as us, celebrating us, and it's all about me and everyone makes me feel good.
Speaker ABut a true test of Christ likeness is, is when people are not actively loving me and when people are coming against me when, when things don't go my way.
Speaker AI mentioned I won't use my kids as an analogy.
Speaker ASo when I was a child, okay, this is what would happen.
Speaker AI would obey my parents all the time when they asked me to do things that made sense.
Speaker ALike, hey, you know, if they asked me to do a chore and it actively helped me, I would say, okay, I'll do that.
Speaker AThat's no problem, you know?
Speaker ABut when my parents asked me to do something that did not line up with my plans for that day, guess what?
Speaker AThat's when the flesh wanted to come out.
Speaker AThat's when rebellion happened.
Speaker AThat's when talking back happened.
Speaker AThat's when all those things that were really the true test of whether or not I'm obedient to my parent, it's when it goes against my plan.
Speaker AAnd that's what it means to be Christ, like growing Christian and a Romans 12 Christian, is, am I going to follow what God has told me to do and how to live when things don't go my way?
Speaker AAnd that's what Paul is saying here.
Speaker ABless those.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause the natural tendency is to curse those that have cursed us.
Speaker APaul basically is saying this.
Speaker ADon't let their response determine yours.
Speaker ADon't let someone's response to you at a store, in your home and your workplace dictate your response.
Speaker AThey might choose evil.
Speaker AI can't control that person's decision.
Speaker AThey might choose evil.
Speaker ABut what am I going to choose?
Speaker AI'm going to choose grace.
Speaker AI'm going to choose patience.
Speaker AI'm going to choose Christ likeness.
Speaker AAnd that's the understanding that Paul is talking about there.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo this is that understanding.
Speaker AHe says, don't curse, but bless Christianity doesn't just teach us what not to do.
Speaker ABecause that's a lot of it.
Speaker AA lot of Christianity is, don't do this, right?
Speaker AStay away from this, be aware of this.
Speaker ABut on a deeper sense, it's more about what to do, right?
Speaker ATo love, to give grace, to walk in truth, to walk in faith.
Speaker AI want to be known more, and I hope you do.
Speaker AI want you to be known more for not just what you're against, but also what you're for.
Speaker AWhat's Middletown Baptist Church known for?
Speaker AWe're maybe known for all the things we don't do, all the things we aren't going to do.
Speaker ABut at the end of the day, I think, and I believe that the Word of God teaches that the church should be known to be a lighthouse for Christ, that.
Speaker AThat we are standing on him, that he has changed us and that he has equipped us.
Speaker AHow can we be a lighthouse to a community if we're living the same way that the world lives like Love those who love you, hate those who love you, hate you.
Speaker AThat's the way the world lives.
Speaker AAnd so if the church is mirroring the world, how can we stand out differently?
Speaker AHow can we attract people to the cause of the gospel if we're not living differently?
Speaker AAnd that's really what he deals with here in verse number 14.
Speaker AIt's hard because, you know, there is a lot of people that say, well, so what are you teaching?
Speaker AAre you teaching passivism?
Speaker ALike, someone can just hurt me, and I just keep getting hurt over and over again.
Speaker AAnd am I supposed to just endure abuse?
Speaker ABecause that's sometimes how this is taught.
Speaker AActually, churches have used passages like this out of context to allow people just to continue to be abused over and over again and just say, well, hey, you're not supposed to stand up for yourself, so just keep taking the abuse.
Speaker AThis is not a passage of scripture that Paul or Jesus is condoning, just being abused and keep getting abused over and over and over again.
Speaker AWhy do we know that?
Speaker ABecause even In Matthew chapter 5, Jesus is not talking about being passive to danger around us.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to talk to you a little bit about this, and I want this to be very important because I need this to resonate this morning because I don't want you to think that I'm taking something out of context.
Speaker AWhat Jesus is saying is that if we are personally slighted, if our ego is hit, if we suffer for doing right for him, yes, that is a time and a place to just turn the other cheek.
Speaker ABut if, let's say, for example, I line up all my children here this morning and someone comes in and they start harming them, the Bible's not teaching me to say, well, keep harming them.
Speaker AAnd let me add another one here.
Speaker AYou know, that's not what it's saying here.
Speaker AAnd let's look at Matthew chapter five, because I want you to see what Jesus is talking about in Matthew chapter 5.
Speaker AHe says to turn the other cheek, to bless those that are persecuting you.
Speaker AWhat is, what does Jesus say when it comes to turning the other cheek?
Speaker AHe says in verse 38, ye have heard that it hath been said, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Speaker AJesus is speaking to a culture that's all about retaliation.
Speaker ALike, hey, you know what?
Speaker AYou say something to me, guess what?
Speaker AI'm going to say something back to you.
Speaker AAnd it's going to be even, even more evil.
Speaker AThat's, that's, that's sometimes where I struggle.
Speaker ASo sometimes in my flesh, when someone says something to me, you know, where I turn, I try to find a gap in their armor.
Speaker AAnd I try to say, you know what, let me, let me say something that hurts them.
Speaker ABut that's what Jesus is speaking against here.
Speaker AHe says verse 39, but I say unto you that ye resist not evil, but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also turn to him the other also.
Speaker ANow a lot of people teach this as well.
Speaker AYou know, if you're just getting abused, just keep getting abused and that's all you can do.
Speaker AYou know, that's not what he's saying here.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause remember context, Most commentators understand this to be that if a person was standing here, now I'm not going to bring up a volunteer because that could be taken out of context on the live stream.
Speaker ASo I'm not going to, but just pretend there's a person standing in front of me.
Speaker AIf I was to strike them in anger, to hurt them, or maybe even to take their lives, I, and most people are right handed.
Speaker AIf I went to strike someone, I would be hitting them on the left side or the front of their face.
Speaker AAnd the commentators would say that the struck on the right side is possibly like a backhand slap, right?
Speaker AJust coming at them in, in a, in a way that is, that is disrespectful.
Speaker AThat's an insult.
Speaker ASo if I was to backhand slap that person, it would hit them on the right cheek.
Speaker AAnd Jesus is speaking here in the context of someone personally slighting you, coming against you.
Speaker AAnd in this case it's an ego hit, not necessarily an abuse thing.
Speaker AAnd when we see this, in this passage, Jesus is not saying that you should always be passive and that you can't protect yourself physically or that you can't protect your family.
Speaker ABecause we know that in other passages later on in the book of Luke, Jesus speaks of the disciples having a sword and protecting themselves.
Speaker ASo what are we talking about here?
Speaker AWe're talking about someone who comes against us and hurts our ego.
Speaker ASomeone who says something bad about us, maybe someone who attacks the way that we look or the way that we live or the way that we are believing.
Speaker AAnd so I do want to be clear here this morning.
Speaker AI don't think that this passage is saying that if someone is coming after you and hurting you and you just say, well, you know what, I guess I'm supposed to just put up with this and bless them.
Speaker AThere is a time and a place to protect yourself and step away from.
Speaker AThere is a time and a place to remove maybe your child or someone that you know from a situation.
Speaker AWhat this is saying, though, is that our prayer for them should be that they find Jesus and come back to a place of repentance and conviction and understand what it means to be forgiven.
Speaker AAnd so In Romans, chapter 12, verse 14, we see a challenge for us to do good to those that persecute us.
Speaker ANot to necessarily put up with their evil, not necessarily to condone their wrongdoing, but to stand in the truth and want and desire what is best for them in the Lord.
Speaker ASo now let's move on to verse 15.
Speaker AHe now says something else, and this doesn't seem too difficult.
Speaker ABut when we actually start to think about the implications here that we see some challenges rising.
Speaker AVerse 15 he says, Rejoice with them that do rejoice.
Speaker ANow what is he saying here?
Speaker AHe's saying this.
Speaker AWe should be happy when other people are happy.
Speaker AThis verse is about empathy, feeling their joy, feeling their excitement.
Speaker AThis requires, though, more than just circumstantial happiness.
Speaker AHe says here, rejoice.
Speaker AWe've talked about this before in other settings.
Speaker AThat rejoice is not just about, hey, everything's going well, I'm happy.
Speaker ANo, it's a deeper level of joy that comes not from circumstances, but comes from a standing before the Lord.
Speaker ASo he says here, yes, we should rejoice with those who are rejoicing.
Speaker ARejoicing with someone else requires me to enter into their experience.
Speaker AIt takes a second for me to understand that it's not about me.
Speaker ATheir joy is not centered around me.
Speaker ATheir joy is centered around what's happening for them.
Speaker ABut I shouldn't meet them in that joy.
Speaker AHappiness is often based upon what happens to me.
Speaker ABut rejoicing with someone else requires me to meet them in their joy.
Speaker AIt requires me to celebrate something that happened to them.
Speaker AWhat does this take for me to rejoice with someone else?
Speaker ANothing good has happened for me.
Speaker ANothing good, particularly circumstantially, has happened good for me.
Speaker ABut something for that other believer has caused them joy.
Speaker AWhat does that mean for me?
Speaker AThat means that I have to die to my self focus and turn the focus over to someone else to put their needs, their excitement, their desires before myself.
Speaker AAnd so this isn't just rejoicing for them.
Speaker ASee it with me.
Speaker AHere in verse 15, he says, Rejoice with them.
Speaker ASometimes we can say, well, I rejoice for them.
Speaker AI'm glad that they got that.
Speaker AGood for them.
Speaker ANo, this is not just rejoicing for them and ending.
Speaker AThis is rejoicing, rejoicing with them because their Joy becomes our joy.
Speaker AThat's what true biblical love does.
Speaker AIt enters us into their life, it enters us into their situation.
Speaker ASomebody else might be experiencing God's blessing in many different ways.
Speaker AMaybe they got a promotion at work, maybe they're getting married, maybe they're having a baby.
Speaker AMaybe they got a new house.
Speaker AMaybe they're reaching a goal.
Speaker AMaybe they've seen a step of spiritual growth in their life and saw God answer a prayer.
Speaker AThe human fleshly response sometimes is this, why wasn't that me?
Speaker AWhy didn't I see that happen in my life?
Speaker AWhy did that person get that lesson so easy?
Speaker AWhy did they get that house?
Speaker AWhy did they get that vehicle?
Speaker AWhy did the pastor notice their ministry and not mine?
Speaker ASometimes what happens is that when we see something good happening in someone's life, it brings about a level of bitterness and covetousness and envy to the place of, yeah, great, I'll celebrate with them, I'll clap for them.
Speaker ABut in my heart of hearts, I needed that.
Speaker AI deserve that.
Speaker AAnd so the flesh is tempted to compare and say, why them?
Speaker AWhy not me?
Speaker ALove and grace in the spirit says, I'm going to thank God with you.
Speaker AThis is one of the greatest tests of spiritual maturity.
Speaker ACan I genuinely celebrate God's goodness to someone else?
Speaker AI. I'm just, you know, most of you might say, sure, that's not a problem for me.
Speaker ABut I think in our heart of hearts, there is sometimes a challenge to celebrate God's goodness in someone else.
Speaker AIt's easy for me to celebrate God's goodness in my life, and I want everybody else to celebrate God's goodness in my life.
Speaker ABut am I ready?
Speaker AAm I willing?
Speaker AAm I able to celebrate when God is working in someone else's life and I'm not hearing it from him at that moment?
Speaker AThat's a tough question.
Speaker AAnd it can only come through God working in our life and us dying to ourselves and following him and seeing that we're on the same team.
Speaker ASo let me give you an analogy of this.
Speaker AGrowing up, my dad and I, we go fishing a lot.
Speaker AAnd my, my dad would catch fish, I would catch fish, and I would catch a fish.
Speaker AAnd my dad would be like, yeah, way to go.
Speaker AAnd he would catch a fish, and I'd be like, oh, man, why didn't I catch that fish?
Speaker AI should have thrown my bait there.
Speaker AI should have did this.
Speaker AAnd my dad used to say to me, I'd rather you catch a fish.
Speaker AI want to see your joy.
Speaker AIt makes me so happy when you catch one More than myself.
Speaker AAnd I never got that.
Speaker AI'm like, well, no, I want to.
Speaker AI want to catch the big one.
Speaker AI want to have the picture.
Speaker AI want to have the, the, the experience.
Speaker AThen I understood what he meant by that.
Speaker AWhen I had a son, first time we went out, you know, I want.
Speaker AI want to see my kid get it.
Speaker AYou know, there's joy in that.
Speaker AThere's joy in me seeing that blessing in his life.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause I'm connected with him now.
Speaker AI'm connected with my dad.
Speaker AAnd now with maturity, I'm super excited when my dad has something happen.
Speaker ABut as an immature child, I wasn't.
Speaker AI didn't have that connection.
Speaker AThere's a different connection with a child.
Speaker AAnd when my child has that victory, I'm excited.
Speaker AIt's the same thing within our Christian life.
Speaker AIf I'm not connected to other Christians, I'm never going to be joyful.
Speaker AI'm always going to say, why wasn't it me?
Speaker AI deserve that.
Speaker ABut when I have that connection, that familial love that the Bible talks about there, when that's my brother and sister in Christ and they have something amazing happen, it's just as I'm having something amazing happen.
Speaker AAnd that's what it means to rejoice with those that are rejoicing.
Speaker AIt's not about, well, I better start smiling and clapping when they have something good happen.
Speaker AIt's not about changing the outside in.
Speaker AIt's about allowing my heart to be connected with them as it's connected with the Lord, so that it's the natural outflow, that when they have joy, I have joy.
Speaker ABut then the next part of this, and sometimes this is difficult for us as well.
Speaker ASome that are gifted in the gift of mercy don't struggle with this.
Speaker ABut it says, just as we are to rejoice with those that are rejoicing, so we are to weep with them that are weeping.
Speaker APaul reverses the situation.
Speaker AChristian love doesn't just enter someone's happiness, but it also enters into their pain.
Speaker AAnd weeping isn't necessarily about literally crying.
Speaker AI don't want you to feel guilty if you're like, well, I was with someone and they were weeping and I just, I. I couldn't shed a tear.
Speaker AIt's not about literal, like moisture coming from your eyes, even though that might be the case.
Speaker ABut really what it is is that it's identifying and being willing to feel the weight of another person's sorrow, to be with them in that process.
Speaker AIf it's a mourning process or if it's, if it's a session of weeping, if it's a session of listening, if it's just a session of being present with someone, it's the idea that I am going to again identify with their needs, stop what I am doing, die to myself, die to my wants and my desires and meet them in that place to show that number one, they're important, but also that their need and their struggle is important as well.
Speaker AIt's not just about, well, I'll pray for you and move on.
Speaker AThat's sometimes the Christian cliche that we all use.
Speaker AAnd it's not a bad thing if we're truly praying for people.
Speaker ABut don't just think, and this is sometimes where I get into trouble, don't just think that if you say you'll pray for them and pray for them that everything's going to be okay in their life.
Speaker AWe should pray, but also at the same time, we shouldn't allow for another brother or sister to suffer alone.
Speaker APaul doesn't say, here, fix those who are weeping.
Speaker AThat's what the, that's what the teacher or the prophet or someone who's all about getting the truth out there, hey, you know what, you're weeping, but hey, look, we can go do this and fix this.
Speaker AAnd with like that sometimes as, as, as a person who is that way, sometimes my thought is, if someone's crying, let me just fix it.
Speaker ABut we know that that's not always the answer.
Speaker AIt's meeting them in that place and they need presence, they need the power of God, they need the love of God.
Speaker AAnd so sometimes it's just somebody willing to sit beside them in a valley.
Speaker AThis is what really the church should look like.
Speaker AThe church should be excited when things are happening to people in a good way and we should be sorrowful when things are happening sorrowful in other Christians lives.
Speaker AThis is what it's all about.
Speaker AWe get so locked in because of our culture.
Speaker AWe get so locked into.
Speaker ALife is about me.
Speaker AAnd if I'm, if it's convenient for me, I'll help that person.
Speaker AIf it's convenient for me, I'll be joyful with them.
Speaker AIf it's convenient for me, I'll cry with them.
Speaker ABut at the end of the day, it's all about me.
Speaker ABut what this passage is teaching us is that it takes a sense of selflessness to notice those around us and be willing to meet them in that place.
Speaker AAnd that's what he says in this very next verse, verse 16.
Speaker AHe ties it all together.
Speaker AHe Ties it all together with rejoicing with those that rejoice and weeping with those that weep.
Speaker ABecause he says in verse 16, be of the same mind toward one another.
Speaker APaul gets underneath the behavior.
Speaker AHe goes deeper.
Speaker AHow do we actually become people who can rejoice with those who are rejoicing?
Speaker AHow can we be people who are weeping with people who are weeping?
Speaker AHow can we be people who are blessing those that persecute us?
Speaker AHow can we be people who love other people?
Speaker AWell, it starts with how we think about other people.
Speaker AHe says, be of the same mind, think alike in the sense of having the same heart and attitude towards one another.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that we agree with everything.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that we follow the same teams.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that we look the same.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that we can agree with different preferences.
Speaker ABut it's this that I see your value in God.
Speaker AAnd we value one another.
Speaker AWe're not competing against one another.
Speaker AWe're brothers and sisters in Christ.
Speaker AWe're on the same team.
Speaker AThat's what he's saying here.
Speaker AHe says the way to understand these hard truths is by seeing other people through the right lens.
Speaker AAnd that is that there's value in you.
Speaker ANot because of your talents, not because of your money, not because of your skill sets, but because of who you are in Christ and who we are together in Christ as brothers and sisters.
Speaker AAnd so Christianity isn't about having the right attitude, but really kind of seeing people as separate and different.
Speaker ANo, it says here, be of the same mind toward one another.
Speaker ASo Christianity is more than just having the right theological understanding.
Speaker AIt's about, yes, believing the right things, but also it's about how I treat people around me.
Speaker AThe person sitting beside me, the person who disagrees with me, the person who might annoy me, the person who's different, the person who can't do anything for me.
Speaker AThat's where Christianity becomes visible to the world around us.
Speaker AAnd that's what he says, mind not the high things.
Speaker ANow, what does that even mean, mind not the high things?
Speaker AThe most basic way to describe that is don't be obsessed with status.
Speaker ADon't be totally consumed with what does that person do?
Speaker AHow much do they make?
Speaker AWhat's their standing in society?
Speaker ADon't constantly seek what's impressive to the world.
Speaker ADon't try to associate yourself with people just so that they can make you look important.
Speaker AThat is a terrible habit to have in our lives.
Speaker AOh, great, I'm going to meet you.
Speaker ALet me.
Speaker ALet me because in the corporate world it's called networking, right?
Speaker AWe need to find what you can bring to me and if you're with me, how does that look to other people?
Speaker AAnd we've got all these clicks and associations and it's all about drawing attention to ourselves.
Speaker ADon't allow ambition to make you overlook God's people.
Speaker ASo, so in modern language, to mind not the high things, it means this.
Speaker ADon't be too impressed with yourself.
Speaker AHe, he even go back with me to see that they're in verse three of Romans chapter 12.
Speaker AHe says, For I say through the grace given unto me to every man that is among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think.
Speaker AThat's what he's saying here.
Speaker ADon't get so self inflated.
Speaker ADon't allow your ego to dictate how you treat other people.
Speaker AThen he says this phrase here in the King James.
Speaker AIt's a little bit misunderstand.
Speaker AThere's a little bit of misunderstanding that could come about because of the word condescend in our culture today.
Speaker ABut it says, but condescend to men of low estate.
Speaker ANow in our modern vernacular, condescend means I'm going to kind of like belittle you.
Speaker ABut that's not what this means.
Speaker ALiterally, condescend means to come down to a place, to lower myself to an equal status with them.
Speaker AAnd so Paul is not saying that I need to talk down to people.
Speaker APaul is saying here, associate with the humble and lowly people.
Speaker AIn other words, don't be too important to spend time with people who aren't important in the eyes of the world.
Speaker AJames talks about this, right?
Speaker ASomeone comes into the church and they're dressed to the nines with everything with gold.
Speaker AAnd back in their time there was gold and robes and things like that.
Speaker AAnd we look at them and go, obviously they've got a lot of resources, so come get the nice seat.
Speaker AAnd now back in that time, nice seat was up front, back today, you know, that Noah sits up on the front, you know, but that's okay.
Speaker AThe, the idea would be though that there were some people that were dressed in such a way or, or were perceived in such a way that they didn't have status.
Speaker AWell, no one, no one noticed them.
Speaker AWe should never look at someone and make a judgment call of what their status is by just the way that they look and then treat them differently.
Speaker AThat's what Paul is saying here.
Speaker AHe says, Jesus met those people in their need.
Speaker AJesus talked to the woman at the well.
Speaker AJesus talked to those People that, that were lame, that were blind.
Speaker AAnd it's not to say that, hey, you know what?
Speaker AWe neglect other people that have status.
Speaker ANo, we are just to treat people the same way that God treats people.
Speaker AStandard across the board.
Speaker AThey all are in need of Jesus Christ.
Speaker AIf they are saved, then they're my brother and sister in Christ.
Speaker AJesus repeated this over and over again as he did his earthly ministry.
Speaker AThen we get to the end of verse 16 and he says, be not wise in your own conceits.
Speaker AWhat's he talking about here?
Speaker AWell, this is his final warning, at least in this passage that we're talking about today.
Speaker AThere's more warnings here, but he says, be not wise in your own conceits.
Speaker AWhat is he saying?
Speaker AIf I could put it in a way that we would understand today, it's don't think you know everything.
Speaker ADon't assume you're always right.
Speaker AMy, my fleshly assumption is that I know everything that I need to know.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AThat I'm always right.
Speaker ALike, was like, you know, my way is the right way.
Speaker ALike, you know, if the way that my house is run, my kids do it a certain way, or someone does something within the church and I look at and go, yeah, that works.
Speaker ABut that's not my way.
Speaker ABecause my way would be this, this, and this.
Speaker AThe understanding that Paul is saying here is he says, don't put yourself in a place where you are always right.
Speaker ADon't become so impressed with who you are that you can't listen to anybody else around you.
Speaker AAnd that brings us back to Romans 12:3.
Speaker ANot to think of ourselves more highly than we ought to think.
Speaker ASo the progression here is.
Speaker AIs a difficult but yet beautiful process of seeing God work.
Speaker AHe takes us from a place of humility that he brings us to with his greatness.
Speaker AThat humility that he brings in our life brings us to a place of empathy, to rejoice with those that are rejoicing, to week with those that are weeping, to bless those that are persecuting us.
Speaker AAnd then he brings us to a place of unity.
Speaker ABecause when we're that way and see each other from that perspective, we're unified.
Speaker AAnd then that is manifested through Christ, like love.
Speaker ASo I want to take you through one last summary here, and then we'll be done.
Speaker AI think we could look at it for four tests of Christlike love in this passage.
Speaker AFour tests.
Speaker AFour tests of Christlike love.
Speaker AAnd we'll start with a question, and then we'll look at the answer.
Speaker ANumber one, how do I respond when someone Hurts me.
Speaker AThat's the first evaluative question I think we should have here in this passage.
Speaker ARemember back verse 14, bless them which persecute you.
Speaker AHow do I respond to hurt?
Speaker AWell, Jesus told us, Paul told us, the Bible tells us, bless those that persecute us.
Speaker ASo the way that we could properly respond to that is this.
Speaker AChristian love blesses instead of retaliates.
Speaker AThat passage in context is talking about not retaliating.
Speaker AHow do we know that?
Speaker ABecause it's where we're going to start next week.
Speaker AIn verse 17.
Speaker ARecompense to no man evil for evil provide things honest in the sight of all men.
Speaker ASo how do I respond when someone hurts me?
Speaker AThe Christlike love response is to bless instead of retaliate.
Speaker ASecond question, how do I respond when someone else succeeds?
Speaker AWe talked about rejoicing with those that are rejoicing.
Speaker AHow do I respond when someone else sees a blessing from God?
Speaker AWhen someone else is the winner, so to speak?
Speaker AWell, Christian love, spiritual sacrifice celebrates instead of competing.
Speaker ACelebrates insteads of competing.
Speaker AMeaning when someone else has a victory, I celebrate it.
Speaker AI don't compete with it.
Speaker AI don't think about, well, how can I make them go down or how can I look better?
Speaker AIt's not about competition, it's about celebrating.
Speaker AThen we see number three.
Speaker AHow do I respond when someone else suffers?
Speaker AWhen someone else goes through a trial, well, he says, weep with them that weep.
Speaker ALove, Christian love.
Speaker ASpiritual sacrifice enters into the pain of another instead of avoids it.
Speaker AOur natural response is avoiding other people's pain.
Speaker AThe Spirit filled response is to enter into their pain, enter into their sorrow, enter into that weight of, of that situation that they're going into or that they're in.
Speaker AAnd then the fourth one.
Speaker AHow do I view myself in relation to others?
Speaker AWell, Paul says, be not wise in your own conceits.
Speaker ALove humbles itself instead of elevating itself.
Speaker AThe idea for us as Christians would be that if I'm following Christ, it's not about elevating myself, it's about humbling myself and elevating others and ultimately elevating the Lord.
Speaker AAnd so when I'm hurt as a Christian, living in Christ means that I am going to love him enough to bless others.
Speaker AWhen someone else is blessed, I'm going to rejoice when someone else is hurting.
Speaker AWe weep.
Speaker AIn every relationship that we have in our life.
Speaker AWe humble ourselves and submit ourselves to the Lord and see others as God sees them in such a way that either one, they need Jesus as their Savior and they need to come to A place of conviction and faith and salvation.
Speaker AOr if they're my brother and sister in Christ, then it's this.
Speaker AThey're saved.
Speaker AAnd they might need help, they might need teaching, they might need encouragement, they might need edification, or they might need friendship.
Speaker AWhatever it is, I want to provide for them what God wants to provide for them in this moment.
Speaker AAnd so Paul in this passage is not just teaching us how to behave better.
Speaker AI could see this passage being taken out of context and saying, okay, you want to be a good Christian, check off these boxes.
Speaker ABut it's not just about performance.
Speaker AIt's not about trying.
Speaker ABut what it's about transformation.
Speaker AHe shows us what a transformed life like Romans 12:2.
Speaker AIt shows us what a transformed life looks like when the mind of Christ, the renewing of the mind, begins to shape the way that we deal with other people around us.
Speaker ATransformed, renewed, changed.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker AIt's not trying, working, and then eventually performing.
Speaker AIt's about allowing God to do the work in us.
Speaker AAnd so, counterintuitively, it's not about trying and working.
Speaker AIt's about submitting and allowing God to do his work through us.
Speaker ANow, it's not passive on our side.
Speaker AWe don't say, God, work through me now.
Speaker ALet me just sit around and focus on myself.
Speaker AThat's not what it's about.
Speaker AIt's about focusing on God, allowing God to work, and then moving when he calls me to move.
Speaker ASo how is this going to look?
Speaker AWell, for me, I'll tell you how it looks.
Speaker AI'll preach a message on compassion, and then God will put a situation in my life where I need to extend compassion.
Speaker AAnd it's a decision that I need to make.
Speaker AAm I going to follow what God has clearly stated in His Word to exercise this compassion on this person, or am I going to choose what I feel like in this moment?
Speaker AIt's a matter of flesh or spirit.
Speaker AAm I going to allow the Spirit of God to speak to me through his word and through circumstances, and then obey?
Speaker AOr am I just going to say, yeah, I know I should, but you know what?
Speaker AI'm busy.
Speaker AOr you know what?
Speaker AI don't know if I could help that person.
Speaker AIf God reveals an opportunity for you to exercise these things in your life, trust him and take a step of faith and obedience, to say, lord, I'm going to do what you've called me to do, and you're going to give me everything I need to see this blessing in my life.
Speaker ABecause again, it all starts with that sacrifice that he calls us to have why?
Speaker ABecause of everything that he's done by the mercies of God.
Speaker AHe calls us as is reasonable to give him our everything.
Speaker AAnd that's what it looks like.
Speaker AWe'll come back next week and we'll look at verses 17 through 21, which gets a little bit more detailed when it comes to this idea of forgiveness and vengeance.
Speaker AAnd it's tied together certainly with what we've talked about today.
Speaker ABut a lot of times we need a secondary help when it comes to that idea of, yeah, but I want to get even.
Speaker AAnd we'll talk about that more next week.
Speaker ASo I'm going to ask if you're able to I'm going to give you a chance to respond if you're able to stand with me, every head bowed, every eye closed as the music plays here.
Speaker AIn a few moments, we're going to have a time of response.
Speaker AThis isn't necessarily a sermon to say to you, this is where you need to be and this is where you're not.
Speaker ASo fix that and get that right with God.
Speaker AToday, though that might be an element of it really, at the deeper sense, it's a matter of am I allowing God to transform me to that which he has called me to live in my life, though it'd be difficult, though it be opposite of the world?
Speaker AAm I open to that transformation process, or am I closed off, thinking it's about trying and working and making it all make sense in my mind.
Speaker AFolks, I'm going to tell you here today, none of us, and I'm going to take a stand on this.
Speaker AI don't think any of us have these verses down perfectly.
Speaker AAll of us need to rejoice more with those that are rejoicing.
Speaker AAll of us need to weep more with those who are weeping.
Speaker AAll of us need to lower ourselves to a place of humility in cases in our life.
Speaker AAll of us to some degree, need to understand what it means to bless those that are persecuting us.
Speaker AAnd so this isn't a matter of are you there yet?
Speaker ABecause I think all of us could understand.
Speaker ANone of us are at perfection.
Speaker AAll of us need growth.
Speaker ASo the true question for the believer this morning is, am I seeking the Lord's transformative power in my life to do these things that are beyond my power, beyond my comprehension?
Speaker ABut I think the greater question is that, number one, do you know Jesus has your Savior?
Speaker AYou can't perform any of these things in your life.
Speaker AYou can't see any of these things happening unless the spirit of God is moving through you.
Speaker AAnd the Spirit of God does not indwell us unless we come to him in faith and trust in Him.
Speaker ARecognize our sin, recognize our need for a Savior, recognize that Jesus can be that only Savior.
Speaker AAnd trusting in his perfect work on the cross and through the resurrection to to give us salvation, forgiveness and eternal life.
Speaker AFolks, if that's something that you need today, it's the greatest decision that you can ever make.
Speaker AIt will change the way that you live.
Speaker AIt'll change the way that you love, it'll change the way that you deal with problems within your life.
Speaker AAnd most importantly, it'll change where you're going to spend eternity.
Speaker AAll of us are going to spend eternity somewhere.
Speaker AThe question is, is I'm going to trust?
Speaker AAm I going to trust in Jesus today and know without a shadow of a doubt that I will spend the rest of of my life here on this earth and ultimately for eternity in heaven with Him?
Speaker AMay that be your prayer and your desire to follow him today.
Speaker ALord, I pray that you be in this time of invitation working hearts and lives.
Speaker AWe're thankful for this challenge, Lord.
Speaker AWe're thankful for the fact that the freedom that we have knowing that we can't do this, but you can and we turn it over to you today.
Speaker ALord, I pray that you be in this time of invitation.
Speaker AWe thank you for all that you do for us.
Speaker AWe ask all these things in Jesus name.
Speaker AAmen.