Faith Over Fear: The Bold Leadership of Jonathan

The central theme of this podcast episode revolves around the contrasting characters of King Saul and his son Jonathan, as depicted in First Samuel chapter 14. In this discussion, we explore Jonathan's embodiment of faith and initiative as he courageously decides to confront the Philistine garrison, demonstrating a stark contrast to Saul's passive leadership. While Saul remains paralyzed by fear and uncertainty, Jonathan's resolute faith propels him to act, underscoring the principle that true strength lies not in numbers or earthly wisdom, but in unwavering trust in God. This narrative illustrates the profound impact that a single individual, acting in faith, can have on the collective outcome. Ultimately, the episode serves as a poignant reminder of the necessity of faith-driven action in our lives, echoing the biblical truth that the Lord saves and delivers, irrespective of human constraints.
Takeaways:
- In this podcast episode, we delve into the contrasting characters of Saul and Jonathan, highlighting how faith versus fear influences their actions and leadership.
- Pastor Josh emphasizes that true faith must be accompanied by action, as demonstrated by Jonathan's courageous decision to confront the Philistines despite overwhelming odds.
- The discussion underscores the significance of obedience to God's call and how it can lead to fruitful outcomes, contrasting Jonathan's faith with Saul's passivity.
- It is noted that God's strength far surpasses human limitations, encouraging listeners to trust in divine power regardless of their circumstances.
- The episode stresses that the ultimate victory belongs to the Lord, and it is through faith that believers can witness His hand at work in their lives.
- Finally, Pastor Josh reflects on the importance of taking bold steps of faith and how such actions can inspire others to follow suit, as seen with Jonathan and his armor bearer.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:23 - Introduction to First Samuel
01:34 - The Contrast Between Jonathan and Saul
11:18 - Jonathan's Bold Proposal
16:04 - Faith vs. Fear: The Leadership of Jonathan
20:05 - The Role of Faith in Battle
28:17 - The Turning Point: Jonathan's Initiative
34:25 - The Contrast of Faith: Saul vs. David
36:55 - The Power of God in Our Lives
41:36 - The Crisis of Faith
Hello and welcome to the Middletown Baptist Church Podcast, where we are proclaiming the truth to the world.
Speaker AMy name is Pastor Josh, and I want to thank you for listening to this podcast.
Speaker AI hope that this podcast can be a blessing to you and strengthen you in the word of God.
Speaker ANow come along, let's look into the Bible and see what God has for us here today.
Speaker ALet's go ahead and continue our study here in First Samuel.
Speaker ASo if you have your Bibles, turn with me to 1st Samuel, chapter 14, 1 Samuel, chapter 14.
Speaker ALast week we looked at 1st Samuel, chapter 13, and that was all about Saul's decline into a life of destruction through pride, through fear.
Speaker AAnd that fear brought anxiety.
Speaker AAnd he.
Speaker AHe acted not in patience as the Lord had called him to act in, but he acted in, in haste and made a decision in his own wisdom and his own strength.
Speaker AAnd we know how that always turns out.
Speaker AAnd as that turned out, Samuel shows up to see Saul and obviously tells him that he did wrong.
Speaker AAnd then through that, he told him that he had lost the blessing of having the kingdom in his family.
Speaker AAnd that seems somewhat harsh to, to see Saul make that decision.
Speaker AThen immediately God punishes Saul and his family.
Speaker ABut as we well know, that there's certain parts of Scripture that we can see and that we can read, but ultimately, we don't know what's going on in the heart of Saul.
Speaker AWhat and, and what we see is that leading up to this point, Saul, his heart has been turning away from the Lord.
Speaker AAnd then in first Samuel, chapter 14, we're going to see that it continues to turn away, but we're going to see a contrast between the heart of saul in chapter 13 and the heart of his son Jonathan.
Speaker AAnd so if, if Saul was a man of fear and insecurity, Jonathan was a man of faith.
Speaker AAnd finding that faith in the Lord brought him strength and brought him courage and brought him victory and fruitfulness.
Speaker AAnd that's what we really see in our Christian life.
Speaker AWe want fruitfulness, but to have fruitfulness, there must be faith that's sown into our life.
Speaker AAnd that faith is seen and demonstrated through obedience.
Speaker AAnd so in First Samuel, chapter 14, we see that there is the Philistine camp that's set up away from the camp of the Israelites.
Speaker AAnd Saul is waiting there with all these people.
Speaker AAnd Jonathan really sees an opportunity to gain a victory for the Lord.
Speaker AAnd so that's what we're going to study here this evening.
Speaker ASo first Samuel, chapter 14, verse one.
Speaker AIt says, now it came to pass upon a Day that Jonathan, the son of Saul, said unto the young man that bear his armor, come and let us go over to the Philistines garrison that is on the other side.
Speaker ABut he told not his father.
Speaker ASo we stop there and we see a couple things.
Speaker AOne, we see Jonathan having the initiative to make a decision to go against the enemy.
Speaker AAnd we know through the rest of the story that God leads Jonathan to do this.
Speaker AAnd the victory comes through the Lord.
Speaker AHe does not tell his father.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't really tell us why he left that away from his father, other than the fact that maybe he thought that his father wouldn't come with him, or maybe he just trusted in the Lord to do it on his own.
Speaker ABut he tells his armor bearer, come with me.
Speaker AAnd who is the armor bearer?
Speaker AWell, we know that every officer in the Israelite army would have had someone there carrying the armor.
Speaker AAnd so this would have been like his assistant.
Speaker AThis would have been someone that he was very familiar with.
Speaker AAnd so he encourages the armor bearer to come with him.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see that the armor bearer does agree to do that.
Speaker AAnd so they go over to the Philistine camp.
Speaker AWe're going to see that story play out here now.
Speaker AAnd what we're going to see is that Jonathan is moving and he's trusting in the Lord to do a work.
Speaker AAnd oftentimes in our life, we could.
Speaker AWe could wrestle with those two things that we talked about last week, passiveness and patience.
Speaker AA lot of times we look at inactivity as patience, and sometimes we do need to stay inactive.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker AWe do need to be waiting, and we do need to wait upon the Lord.
Speaker ABut oftentimes we need to move as the Lord moves us.
Speaker AAnd so in this case, we see Jonathan making a move, verse 2, and Saul terried in the uttermost part of Gibeah under a pomegranate tree, which is in Migron.
Speaker AAnd the people that were with him were about 600 men.
Speaker ASo we see a contrast between Jonathan and his dad, Saul.
Speaker AJonathan's ready to go.
Speaker AHe's looking at the enemy.
Speaker AHe sees God working, and he says, I'm going to go and I'm going to fight against the Philistines, even if it's just me and my armor bearer.
Speaker AAnd then we see Saul, he's got 600 men and he's sitting under the pomegranate tree, just having a good time, relaxing when he should be moving, when he should be acting upon what God has called them to do.
Speaker AAnd so he's sitting under a pomegranate tree, and he's leading 600 men just to hold there with him.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd we see how a decision that Jonathan makes impacts the armor bearer and how ultimately will impact a bunch of people.
Speaker AAnd we see how the inactive nature of Saul and his passiveness affects other men around him.
Speaker AAnd, and we see a description of some of the men that are with him.
Speaker AAnd verse three sounds somewhat strange to be in this passage, but.
Speaker AAnd random.
Speaker AIt lists a few different people here.
Speaker ABut I do believe that there's a point to the list of the people that are here, verse three.
Speaker AAnd Ahayah, the son of Ahitub, Iabad's brother, the son of Phineas, the son of Eli, the Lord's priest in Shiloh, wearing an ephed.
Speaker AAnd the people knew not that Jonathan was gone.
Speaker ANow, I read through verse three and I. I read through it quite a few times and I thought about why, why were these specific people picked out and why was and in any way Ichabod, the Ichabod's brother mentioned?
Speaker AAnd Ichabod's mentioned and the son of Phineas.
Speaker AAnd if you guys remember the story in First Samuel, you had a guy that was the priest named Eli, and he had two sons that were not obedient to God, one of them being Phineas.
Speaker AAnd then he has a son named Ichabod.
Speaker AAnd remember, the mom named the son Ichabod because of the fact that that word means that the glory of God has left.
Speaker AAnd so authors, different people that write commentaries, believe that possibly Ichabod's name was mentioned in this verse because of the fact that it's symbolizing the fact that the glory of God has left Saul at this point, and it's indicating his disobedience.
Speaker AAnd so that possibly could be the case.
Speaker ABut nonetheless, those people are mentioned there.
Speaker AAnd then we see verse four, and between the passages by which Jonathan sought to go over into the Philistines garrison, there was a sharp rock on one side and a sharp rock on the other side.
Speaker AAnd the name of the one was Boz, and the name of the other was Sena.
Speaker AAnd so he goes, he takes action, and as he's moving this way, he finds this place that would have been advantageous for a battle.
Speaker AIt would have been advantageous for a few people fighting a bunch of people because it would have narrowed down the battle to basically hand to hand combat, one on one, right there in this narrow gap.
Speaker AAnd that's what we're going to see Jonathan do here in, in this scenario.
Speaker AAnd so he doesn't tell his father.
Speaker ASaul was sitting under a pond McGrana tree.
Speaker AHe was indicated there as being one who was living in passiveness and living in disobedience.
Speaker AAnd Jonathan, Jonathan finds this strategic position and he's going to make a move.
Speaker ASo let's look at verse number five.
Speaker AIt says the forefront of the one was situated northward against McMash and the other southward over against Gibeah.
Speaker ASo the setting for the battle takes place.
Speaker ABut Jonathan's also going to use some discernment, and he's actually going to make a plan.
Speaker AAnd the plan is essentially this.
Speaker AWe're going to see how the Philistines react to us.
Speaker AWe're going to make ourselves known to the Philistines.
Speaker AAnd depending on how the Philistines respond is how we'll respond.
Speaker AAnd so we see Jonathan making a decision here, a strategic decision to kind of see a test, give them a test.
Speaker AAnd so verse six, and Jonathan said to the young man that bears armor, come and let us go over into the garrison of these uncircumcised.
Speaker AIt may be that the Lord will work for us.
Speaker AAnd I love that phrase there.
Speaker AHe says, we're going to go and God's going to work for us.
Speaker AWe're going to go and God's going to work ahead.
Speaker AHe's taking action by faith that God is going to give him the victory.
Speaker AHe doesn't know how that victory is essentially going to play out.
Speaker AHe doesn't know all the details.
Speaker AHe doesn't know how the end will look.
Speaker ABut he believes in faith that God will do his work, that God will give them the victory.
Speaker AAnd that's really what faith is.
Speaker AYou know, oftentimes we think about that word faith, and we think about, well, faith is trusting in something that we can see or trusting in something that makes sense.
Speaker ABut really what we see in this case and what we see throughout all of Scripture is that faith is taking a step of.
Speaker AOf.
Speaker AOf trust in something that we don't evidently see yet.
Speaker AWe're trusting that God's going to keep his word.
Speaker AWe're trusting that God is going to come to pass.
Speaker AEverything that he has said that will come to pass.
Speaker AAnd so he says in that verse, verse six, it may be that the Lord will work for us, and there is no restraint to the Lord to save by many or by few.
Speaker AI love how he says that, because basically what he says is this.
Speaker AGod will give us a victory over a few.
Speaker AGod can give us a victory over great numbers.
Speaker ADon't mean anything to God.
Speaker AAnd you think about all the stories in Scripture where God's people were under matched, they were under numbered, they were under equipped when it came to the swords and chariots and horses.
Speaker ABut God gives them the victory not because of their strength, not because of their numbers, not because of their technology, but because that they are his people and that he is more powerful than any enemy that we might face.
Speaker AAnd that's a lesson that we can all take with us.
Speaker AAt the end of verse six, Jonathan says this.
Speaker AWe're going to go.
Speaker AGod's going to work.
Speaker AGod can give us the victory above anybody that we fight because he trusts that God will keep his word.
Speaker AAnd that's what we should do in our own lives.
Speaker AWhen we're coming to a situation that might not make sense, or when we're coming to a situation that doesn't align with our way of thinking, or it doesn't align with the numbers, or it doesn't align with what ultimately people think is a good idea, we can come to that and say, if God's called us to do it, he's going to get us through it.
Speaker AAnd that's what we see exactly happening in this passage.
Speaker AIn verse seven, it says this, that his arm rear said unto him, do all that is in thine heart turn thee.
Speaker ABehold, I am with thee according to thy heart.
Speaker ASo we see that Jonathan's boldness for the Lord, Jonathan's faith is contagious to his armor bearer.
Speaker AI mean, his armor bearer had every right and every choice to leave at that point, saying, jonathan, you can go to the Philistines.
Speaker AIt's two verse hundreds, maybe even thousands.
Speaker AWe don't want to do this.
Speaker AI don't want to do this.
Speaker AI think we should leave.
Speaker ABut no, Jonathan's faith and his boldness for the Lord is contagious.
Speaker AAnd so in contrast, we see Saul holding back there with 600 men under a pomegranate tree, thinking that something else is going to happen in, in his timing, in his way.
Speaker AAnd then we see Jonathan leading one.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see what two people that are faithful to the Lord can do.
Speaker AAnd a lot of times what we can see is that it's not always about numbers.
Speaker AAnd a lot of times today what we see is that people gauge God working through numbers.
Speaker AAnd sometimes God does work with a mass amount of people.
Speaker ASometimes where we find God working is where we see a bunch of people congregated.
Speaker ABut sometimes we see in scripture that it's not always about the crowd.
Speaker AIt's not always about the masses.
Speaker ASometimes it's about the ones that are not the majority.
Speaker AAnd for example, in the Book of Judges, we saw the, the story of Gideon, right?
Speaker AGideon had all these men, and eventually God paired it down to just 300 and they went in and had that great victory.
Speaker AAnd we see other instances where God would allow a smaller group to have victory over a larger group.
Speaker AAnd so that's exactly what is happening here with Jonathan and the armor bearer.
Speaker ASo let's look at what happens here in verse number eight and nine, because I think this is so amazing how God just works this out with, with Jonathan's faith and, and with his bold proposal.
Speaker AHe comes into the situation and he says, God's going to work for us.
Speaker AI'm going to trust in him.
Speaker AI'm going to believe that he is going to work ahead of us.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see that his faith is, is, is, is rewarded.
Speaker AGod rewards his faith.
Speaker AAnd the Bible says that in Hebrews, chapter 11.
Speaker AImpossible to please God.
Speaker AIt's impossible to please God without faith.
Speaker AHe's a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Speaker AAnd I truly believe that God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.
Speaker ANow, he doesn't reward us necessarily in the way that we always expect or that we want, but God always rewards those that have faith.
Speaker AAnd so he rewards Jonathan for his faith.
Speaker AAnd so verse 8 then said Jonathan, behold, we will pass over unto these men and we will discover ourselves unto them.
Speaker ASo Jonathan is not only working in a unique way in the fact that he doesn't have the numbers, but he's also going to act in a very unique way in the fact that he does something that most people would say is not a wise decision.
Speaker AWe would, we would say maybe if they're going in with underutilized amount of numbers, maybe they should come in and surprise them.
Speaker AMaybe they should come in in the middle of the night like maybe we've seen other people do in the past.
Speaker ACome in in the middle of the night and shock them, surprise them.
Speaker ABut no, Jonathan says, we're going to not be what, what maybe think people think we should be.
Speaker AWe're going to come in and just boldly proclaim that we're here.
Speaker AAnd, and so this is a really, really unique way to come into the battle.
Speaker ABut he says, we're going to go and we're going to make ourselves known unto them.
Speaker AVerse 9.
Speaker AIf they say thus unto us, Terry, until we come to you, meaning, wait, we're coming to you, then we will stand still in our place, and we will not go up unto them mean, meaning we'll let them come to us.
Speaker ABut verse 10.
Speaker ABut if they say thus, come up unto us, meaning come up to us, come to us, then we will go up, for the Lord hath delivered them into our hand, and this shall be a sign unto us, meaning if they say, come to us, that's our ticket to go in and work for the Lord and get a victory.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan proposes this test.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan believes that God would take his.
Speaker AHis.
Speaker AHis strength and that he's putting forward and then multiply it with strength.
Speaker AAnd we know that God's strength is infinite.
Speaker AOur strength runs out, but God's strength is infinite.
Speaker AAnd he said, this will be assigned to us.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan, the way that you can think about it this way is that Jonathan was prompted by faith.
Speaker AHe moves by faith.
Speaker AAnd we know that he's not demanding God to do this.
Speaker AWe know that he's acting in faith and he's willing to take one step at a time.
Speaker AAnd he's allowing God to make the.
Speaker AThe ultimate plans here.
Speaker AHe's just taking it one step at a time.
Speaker AAnd really that's what faith is.
Speaker AFaith is willing to let God do the work, and we just follow along and we take one step of faith at a time.
Speaker AWe don't know the end.
Speaker AWe don't know how it's all going to come to pass, but we're trusting in this victory that God has promised us.
Speaker AAnd so we're going to see what happens here in verse number 11.
Speaker ABecause verse number 11 tells us really the response of the Philistines, and ultimately what dictates what Jonathan and his armor bear are going to do next.
Speaker AVerse number 11.
Speaker AAnd both of them discover themselves unto the garrison of the Philistines.
Speaker ASo they come in and say, hey, we're here.
Speaker AAnd the Philistines said, behold, the Hebrews come forth out of their holes where they have hid themselves.
Speaker ASo this shows you the way that the Israelites or the Hebrews have been living up to this point in fear, hiding in holes.
Speaker AI mean, they weren't living boldly for the Lord.
Speaker AThey're not living boldly with God's plan.
Speaker AThey're not living boldly with their King Saul, who was supposed to be their leader.
Speaker ANo, they're living in holes.
Speaker AAnd it shows that they're.
Speaker AThey're living in that fear, they're living in that anxiety, always thinking that they're going to be defeated by the Philistines.
Speaker AAnd so the Philistines indicate, hey, this is strange.
Speaker AThey're coming out of their hiding place against us.
Speaker AAnd this just shows how far Saul had allowed the Israelite people to spiral into this place of fear and anxiety.
Speaker AAnd what we really see is that a group of people will follow a leader, whether it be good or bad.
Speaker AYou know, when we, when we have someone like Saul who is plagued by anxiety and fear and insecurity, what's going to eventually happen is that the people that he leads are going to follow in that suit and be in fear and anxiety.
Speaker AAnd, and ultimately that's what we see happening here.
Speaker AAnd then when it's when Jonathan steps up in faith and eventually David stepping up in faith, that the people will have boldness.
Speaker AI mean, you guys even remember of the story which we're going to talk about in, in a few weeks is going to be the story of, of David, right?
Speaker ADavid goes out into the battlefield against Goliath, and nobody in the army was willing to go out against Goliath except for David.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause he was a man of faith.
Speaker AAnd so we see in this case the difference between faith and fear.
Speaker AFaith drives people to hide and to run away from the problems.
Speaker AAnd that's what fear does.
Speaker AAnd then faith draws people out into boldness and to confront the issue at hand.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what we're going to see here.
Speaker ASo verse 12 tells us what the, what the Philistines did.
Speaker AAnd the men of the garrison answered Jonathan and his armor bearer and said, come up to us, all right?
Speaker AThere's their invitation.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ARemember, Jonathan said, if they said we'll come to you.
Speaker AWe'll just wait and see what happens.
Speaker AIf they say, you come to us, that's our, that's our ticket.
Speaker AThat's our welcome.
Speaker AWe're going to go in.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what they do and say, come up unto us and we will show you a thing.
Speaker ABasically, this is, you know, the Philistine way of what we would say is talking trash.
Speaker AThey said, hey, come down here and we're going to show you something.
Speaker AWe're going to show you what it means to really fight.
Speaker AWe're the Philistines.
Speaker AWe've got the, we've got the true power.
Speaker AWe've got the true victory.
Speaker AAnd, and this is really follow suit to the way the Philistines act.
Speaker AI mean, even Goliath mocked the, the Israelites and mocked their God.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan said to his armor bearer, come up after me.
Speaker AHere we go.
Speaker ACome up after me.
Speaker AFor the Lord hath delivered them into the hand of Israel.
Speaker ANow, the end of verse 12, we see Jonathan exercising faith, right?
Speaker ABecause they haven't had the victory yet.
Speaker AI mean, literally, they haven't had the victory.
Speaker AThey're about to go into the battle.
Speaker ABut because of Jonathan's belief in the Lord, he already says, hey, we've got the battle.
Speaker AAnd what, what, what kind of faith is that?
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's amazing faith.
Speaker AI think for me, sometimes I struggle.
Speaker AI. I look at a situation and I say, okay, Lord, I'm gonna do this, but I don't know how it's going to turn out.
Speaker AAnd if I, if I would be transparent with you here this evening, which I try to be transparent as much as I can be, there's a lot of times in my life that I'm going through the motions.
Speaker AI know God calls me to do this, but the whole time I'm going, lord, I don't know.
Speaker AI'm not sure if this is going to work.
Speaker AI'm pretty sure I'm going to fall on my face and it's not going to be a success.
Speaker AI know that this is going to be a failure because I'm looking at it from my perspective.
Speaker AI'm looking at it from my human perspective.
Speaker AIt doesn't add up for me.
Speaker AAnd so willingly I'm doing it.
Speaker ABut I'm kind of like the fellow in the New Testament that says, lord, I believe, but help my unbelief.
Speaker AAnd, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
Speaker AI mean, better than just turning away from what God tells us.
Speaker ABut it would be better if we had the type of faith that Jonathan has that says, okay, Lord, you're going to give us the victory.
Speaker AWe're going in and we're going to trust in you before we even go into the battle.
Speaker AAnd I think that's.
Speaker AThat's an indication of a testimony of prayer.
Speaker AThat's an indication of someone who is walking with the Lord.
Speaker AIf I'm walking with the Lord and I'm prayed up and I'm going into a situation, I'm going to be ready to say, you know what?
Speaker AI've done everything that I possibly can to trust in the Lord.
Speaker ANow the Lord takes over, and as the Lord takes over, he gives us the victory.
Speaker AAnd so that's what's going to happen in, in this case.
Speaker ASo verse 13.
Speaker AAnd Jonathan climbed up onto his hands and upon his feet and his armor bearer after him.
Speaker AAnd they fell before Jonathan and his armor bearer slew after him.
Speaker AAnd so at this point in time, Jonathan, he climbs up on his hands and his knees with his armor bearer after him and a difficult climb up on one of these rocks.
Speaker ABut they do that.
Speaker AAnd ultimately what we see is that the battle comes in.
Speaker AThey're.
Speaker AThey're going to be fighting.
Speaker AAnd he knew that God was going to use him to fight, but ultimately God was going to extend his power upon the situation.
Speaker AAnd so I think this is interesting too, because when we're in a situation that we're exercising faith, we don't just lay down our sword.
Speaker AYou know, a lot of times we think that there's a phrase, and I know what we mean by it, and I don't think it's necessarily wrong when we say it, but there's some, probably some negative implications with it.
Speaker ABut we say let go and let God, and we say, okay, I'm going to trust God and I'm just going to put everything down and I'm just going to wait for it all to transpire.
Speaker ABut that's not always what we see when we see actions of faith.
Speaker AWe see people trusting in the Lord and then acting in that faith.
Speaker ASo Jonathan could have thrown his sword aside and said, okay, Lord, where's the victory?
Speaker ABut no, Jonathan had the sword.
Speaker AAnd Jonathan went into battle trusting that as he was acting, God was acting for him.
Speaker AAnd, and I think that's something too, in our life that there might be times where we come to the end of our rope and we can't do anything.
Speaker AAnd that's, of course, when God steps in.
Speaker ABut in many cases, God wants us to do the work, and he will then intercede for us in the midst of the battle.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan knew that the battle was the Lord's, but he acted in it.
Speaker AAnd we see in verse number 14, and in the first slaughter which Jonathan and his armor bearer made was about 20 men within, as it were, a half acre of land which a yoke of oxen might plow.
Speaker AAnd so we see that as he is fighting there, he.
Speaker AHe and his armor bearers slay 20 men, which doesn't seem like a lot, but we're going to see that that has a huge impact to those that are the Philistines.
Speaker AAnd they see this happening, verse 15, and there was a trembling in the host.
Speaker AAnd so what's happening here is that as Jonathan and the armor bearer are fighting, it seems that the Philistines had some sort of confusion, they had some sort of a fear.
Speaker AAnd many commentators believe that this was the work of God in the midst.
Speaker AAs Jonathan's fighting and as the armor bearers fighting, that God is working in there, and he's allowing them to feel this fear and trembling in the field.
Speaker AAnd among all the people, the garrisons and the spoilers, they also trembled in the earthquake.
Speaker ASo obviously that's an indication that God is at work.
Speaker AAnd so as Jonathan is fighting, so God is fighting.
Speaker ASo it was a very great trembling.
Speaker AAnd so it didn't matter.
Speaker AThe Philistines had more people.
Speaker AIt didn't matter that they had better weapons.
Speaker AObviously, God was more powerful than the Philistines, weapons and their numbers.
Speaker AAnd that's the same thing for us today.
Speaker AI mean, God is more powerful than the enemies that we face.
Speaker AGod is more powerful than any addiction that we might face, any fear that we might face, any enemy from the outside or within.
Speaker AGod is more powerful.
Speaker AAnd so we don't look at it like, well, you know what?
Speaker AI don't have the strength to overcome this.
Speaker AWell, the reality is, is that in many cases, and probably most cases, we don't have the strength to overcome these things in our life.
Speaker ABut what we do know is that God's strength is more powerful than any, any enemy that we might face in our life.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what we see happening in this passage.
Speaker ASo verse 16, and the watchmen of Saul.
Speaker ASo remember, Saul and his people are kind of sitting up in a camp, and they can see the Philistines, they can see those enemies across the way.
Speaker AAnd it says that verse 16.
Speaker AAnd the watchmen of Saul and Gibeah Benjamin looked, and behold, the multitude melted away.
Speaker ASo he's looking, and all of a sudden he sees the Philistines begin to scatter.
Speaker AHe sees the Philistines begin to tremble, and he sees the Philistines, actually some of them dying.
Speaker AAnd there's a question here.
Speaker AHe says, they see them melting away, and they went on beating down one another.
Speaker AAnd so they're actually fighting against each other.
Speaker AAnd so the reality is, is that God has confounded the enemy beyond what they could expect.
Speaker AVerse 17.
Speaker AThen Saul Then said Saul into the people that were with him.
Speaker ANumber now and see who was gone from us, Meaning who left?
Speaker AWho's doing this?
Speaker AIt's not us.
Speaker AIt's not me, son.
Speaker AI, I who who left.
Speaker AAnd when they had numbered, behold Jonathan and his armor bearer were not there.
Speaker AAnd so and Saul said unto Ahaya, bring hither the ark of God.
Speaker AAnd for the ark of God was at that time with the children of Israel.
Speaker AAnd so this is an interesting thing that Saul does here.
Speaker AAs.
Speaker AAs the watchmen of Israel are watching this huge army of the Philistines begin to melt away, they start figuring out who's actually doing this.
Speaker AAnd obviously, Saul is going to make a decision here.
Speaker AAnd the decision that he has is to bring the ark of God to their midst.
Speaker AAnd Saul is.
Speaker AI believe that Saul was trying to do some kind of spiritual.
Speaker ALike he was jumping, trying to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe sees the Philistines being defeated.
Speaker AHe goes, oh, let's bring the ark in.
Speaker ALet's.
Speaker ALet's make this a spiritual experience.
Speaker ALet's.
Speaker ALet's jump on this and let's have the victory.
Speaker AAnd there is a time and a place to.
Speaker ATo have that moment of religious experience.
Speaker ABut at the same time, what Saul should have done is said, hey, they're on the move.
Speaker ALet's go get them.
Speaker ALet's go.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut he doesn't in this case.
Speaker AAnd so he brings this ark here.
Speaker AAnd what.
Speaker AWhat happens next is.
Speaker AIs also very interesting.
Speaker AVerse 19.
Speaker AAnd it came to pass while Saul talked unto the priest that the noise that was in the host of the Philistines went on and increased.
Speaker AAnd Saul said unto the priest, withdraw thine hand.
Speaker ASo what's happening here basically, is that Saul goes to the priest and there would have been these.
Speaker ABasically there would have been like, this pouch on the front of the priest garments, and there would have been two stones inside of the pouch.
Speaker AAnd it would have been.
Speaker AThey basically would reach down in the pouch and they would ask God to say yes or no, basically, should we go into battle?
Speaker AShould we not go into battle?
Speaker AAnd then there would be.
Speaker AMost commentators believe that there would have been a dark stone and a light stone.
Speaker AAnd like, let's say the dark stone was yes, the light stone was no.
Speaker AAnd so there's like reaching in the pouch and trying to see what God would say.
Speaker AAnd ultimately what we see here is that it kept saying, no, don't go, don't go.
Speaker AAnd Saul said unto Ahaya, bring hither the ark of God.
Speaker AFor the ark was at that time in the children of Israel.
Speaker AAnd then eventually he says, withdraw thine hand.
Speaker AAnd Saul and all the people that were with him assembled themselves and they came to battle.
Speaker AAnd behold, every man's sword was against his fellow.
Speaker ASo they're fighting against each other.
Speaker AAnd there was a very great discomfiture.
Speaker AMoreover, the Hebrews that were with the Philistines before that time.
Speaker ASo what we see here actually is very interesting.
Speaker AIn verse 21 that there were actually Hebrews that were joining in with the Philistines prior to this.
Speaker ASo these would be like the compromisers.
Speaker AThese would be the one that had sold themselves out and were basically slaves or servants to the Philistines.
Speaker AAnd they see all this happening and they actually turn and start fighting with the Hebrews.
Speaker AThey start fighting for the.
Speaker AThe quote, unquote, right side.
Speaker ASo moreover, the Hebrews that were with the Philistines before that time, which went up with them into the camp from the country, round about even, they also turned to be with the Israelites that were with Saul and Jonathan.
Speaker ASo we see Saul and Jonathan in two different ways.
Speaker AWe see Jonathan stirring the hearts of the people in the battle.
Speaker AAnd then we see what happens is that Saul, he.
Speaker AHe does not stir the heart of the people into battle.
Speaker AI mean, eventually he gets to the battle, but he should have been the one that was fighting like Jonathan.
Speaker AAnd this shows how we as believers can miss the boat if we're sitting back and feeling comfortable about what we have and we don't want to make a move for the Lord.
Speaker AAnd so we see verse 22, it says, likewise, all the men of Israel which had hid themselves in Mount Ephraim when they heard that the Philistines fled, even they also followed hard after them in battle.
Speaker ASo the Lord saved Israel that day, and the battle passed over into Beth Haven.
Speaker ASo what we can see here, long story short, is this.
Speaker ASaul was the leader of Israel, but it took him a long time to start leading.
Speaker AIt was Jonathan who took the initiative, and eventually he follows God into battle.
Speaker ABut it took for his son to be the leader.
Speaker AIt took for his son to take the initiative.
Speaker AAnd really, it was not that.
Speaker AIt should not have been that way.
Speaker ASaul should have been the one leading Jonathan, but instead, Jonathan led his father into battle, for in a good way.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd we see that at this point in time, there were many people that were either living with the Philistines or they were in hiding.
Speaker AAnd it seems that many of the people had the same insecure heart that Saul had, that maybe God's not winning, maybe we need to join the other side.
Speaker AAnd that would speak to those that have compromised themselves and have turned to the ways of the world to say, well, you know what?
Speaker AIt seems like the world is winning.
Speaker AIt seems like the Philistines are winning.
Speaker AIt seems like my better route is just to go that way.
Speaker ABut it took for the power of God to be working through Jonathan for them to see this and to turn away from those wicked ways and turn ultimately to the power of God.
Speaker AAnd they only came out when Israel was winning and the victory was assured.
Speaker ASo these people are moving late on the.
Speaker AOn the game here.
Speaker AAnd so God, I believe, really uses Jonathan here.
Speaker AIt wasn't Jonathan's victory.
Speaker AIt was God's victory.
Speaker ABecause we see that at the.
Speaker AAt the end of this passage, verse 23.
Speaker ASo the Lord saved Israel that day, and the battle passed over unto Beth Haven.
Speaker AAnd so it doesn't say Jonathan saved Israel, even though it.
Speaker AIn our perspective, it could have been.
Speaker AIt says, no, the Lord saved Israel.
Speaker AAnd so God uses Jonathan to do his work.
Speaker AAnd so God was waiting on someone to take the step of boldness, to take a step of faith, because the victory had already been promised to them.
Speaker AAnd so we're going to see next week, when we come back to this passage of Scripture, that Saul, he takes credit for this and he makes this, and he jumps ahead and he basically says, we gotta keep fighting and no one can eat till we get done.
Speaker AYou know, killing these Philistines.
Speaker ALike what?
Speaker AAnd he tries to make it like a spiritual thing.
Speaker AHe says, we're all gonna fast as we're battle.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd he makes an unwise decision to refrain.
Speaker ATo have his.
Speaker AHis army refrain from eating, making it like a spiritual experience.
Speaker ABut what ends up happening is all of his people end up getting super weak because they don't have any nourishment.
Speaker AAnd we see that he just makes a decision outside of the realm of God.
Speaker AAnd it just.
Speaker AHe's trying to do a physical, external, religious show that has no internal meaning.
Speaker AAnd eventually what we see happening in that regard is that it actually causes it to be more devastating for the people.
Speaker AAnd they're led into sin because they get to a place where they're starving so much that he finally tells them that they can eat, and they go eat a bunch of food that's not clean.
Speaker AYou know, they don't.
Speaker AThey don't bleed the meat.
Speaker AThey don't do the sacrifices, right?
Speaker AAnd he actually leads his whole people into sin.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see how that transpires next week.
Speaker ABut what I want us to do is I want to kind of summarize these thoughts that we've been looking at here in this first 23 verses.
Speaker AAnd essentially what we see is that Jonathan moves in faith.
Speaker AAnd because of Jonathan's faith, he made decisions that were not what we would say.
Speaker AWhat.
Speaker AWhat many people would say if they're looking at from a human perspective, is that they would not be Decisions that were wise from the human perspective.
Speaker AHe went against the numbers.
Speaker AHe went against normal tactics of the day by telling them that he was there.
Speaker AAnd he went ahead outside of what many people would think was a wise decision.
Speaker ABut we know that when we're walking in the will of God, we know that when we're following him in faith, that's the wisest decision that we can ever make.
Speaker AAnd so we in many cases might be making decisions that people are confused with or maybe even come against and maybe even question.
Speaker ABut ultimately, if we're following God and, and we're trusting in His Word, it's the right decision.
Speaker AAnd, and we have to believe that what God says He will do.
Speaker AAnd we talk about having confident expectation.
Speaker AWe talk about having hope.
Speaker AAnd biblical hope is that confident expectation.
Speaker ASo what Jonathan says is, I don't care if the Philistines are outnumbering us.
Speaker AI don't care if they have more weapons.
Speaker AI don't care if they have more horses.
Speaker AI don't care if what we're doing here doesn't seem right.
Speaker AGod's leading me to do this, and so I'm going to believe that he's going to give me the victory.
Speaker AAnd some of the key verses that I think will give us the picture of that type of faith is verse 12.
Speaker AHe says, Come up after me, for the Lord hath delivered them into the hand of Israel.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe had confidence that God had given him the victory.
Speaker AI mean, we could even go back to the verse that, that he mentioned.
Speaker AHe basically says, this, God's gonna do his work.
Speaker AGod's going.
Speaker AHe says, God may.
Speaker AHe says that the.
Speaker AMay the Lord will work it out for us.
Speaker AFor there is no restraint to the Lord.
Speaker AThis is verse six.
Speaker AThere is no restraint to the Lord to save by many or by few, meaning this.
Speaker AI don't care what we're against.
Speaker AGod is more powerful than the numbers.
Speaker AI've.
Speaker AI've often sat down at a table looking at the numbers, either for the church or for my own family and looking at things and going, I don't know how this is going to add up.
Speaker AI remember those days when we started out in Christian ministry in Florida, and I would look at my salary and I would look at what we needed to have, and I would say, I don't know how this is going to work.
Speaker AAnd it really shouldn't have worked when you look at the numbers.
Speaker ABut God worked it out in such a way that he would provide for us in creative ways.
Speaker ASame thing goes for the Church.
Speaker AI mean, there's been times, frankly that we've looked at the numbers and through the year and we're going, I don't know how we're going to make it.
Speaker AGiving's been down.
Speaker AI don't know how we're going to provide.
Speaker AI don't do this.
Speaker AAnd every time God comes through and provides, because if he is working, it doesn't matter what the numbers are.
Speaker AHe's going to do what he needs to do.
Speaker AAnd even if he doesn't give us the numbers that we expect, he'll always provide for us in the ways that he provides for us in.
Speaker ABecause the Bible says that he will supply all of our needs, not all of our wants, but all of our needs.
Speaker AAnd so Jonathan goes into battle saying this, I know God's going to deliver me.
Speaker AI know he's going to give me the victory.
Speaker AI know that he's given Israel the victory.
Speaker AAnd we see that in verse 23.
Speaker ASo the Lord saved Israel that day.
Speaker AAnd it's that faith that saves.
Speaker AIt always is faith that saves.
Speaker AIt's never works.
Speaker AIt was never Jonathan's works that saved the people of Israel.
Speaker AIt was not, it was not Jonathan's works that saved himself.
Speaker AIt was not Jonathan's works that gave him the victory.
Speaker AIt started all with the faith.
Speaker AEven prior to the battle, it was his belief that God would do what he said he would do.
Speaker AAnd we, and we look at Hebrews chapter 11 and we see story after story of individuals that didn't know what the outcome would be, but they trusted that God would handle it.
Speaker AThey trusted that God would do it.
Speaker AAnd so again, it's impossible to please God without faith.
Speaker AAnd so you see really two men that are contrasted against each other.
Speaker AIt's Saul, man with really little faith.
Speaker AI mean, there's a few glimpses of Saul with his faith throughout his life, but very few times in which he exercises faith.
Speaker AIt's usually he exercises out of fear and anxiety and he just makes a rash decision or he makes a decision that doesn't align up with what God's word does.
Speaker AWe saw that last chapter with the fact that he made that sacrifice when he shouldn't have made the sacrifice.
Speaker ANow we saw here in this chapter by him just holding back from going to battle, which he, he was just wasting time sitting under the pomegranate tree.
Speaker AAnd then we're going to see in a few passages ahead, well, even next week, he makes this, this oath that basically he condemns his son.
Speaker AHe says the next person who eats is going to die.
Speaker AAnd then his son didn't hear the oath, and his son eats some honey.
Speaker AAnd now he's got himself in a situation that he's going to curse his own son to death.
Speaker AThat's a terrible decision.
Speaker AThen we're going to see that he makes a decision not to kill all the people that God calls him to kill and take out all the leaders.
Speaker AHe thinks that he can figure out his own way with the Amalekites, and that comes back to haunt him.
Speaker AAnd so we know over and over again, Saul is just not a man of faith.
Speaker AHe's a man of the flesh.
Speaker AAnd really, that's the.
Speaker AThat's the contrast.
Speaker AAt the end of the day.
Speaker AAre we going to work in faith and follow the spirit?
Speaker AAre we going to work in the flesh and follow what we feel is the right way to go?
Speaker AAnd we'll study more about that as we continue on with Saul.
Speaker AI know Saul is.
Speaker AIs considered to be.
Speaker AHe's considered to be a king who was.
Speaker AWho is not leading his.
Speaker AHis people.
Speaker AWell, David's going to come along, and David certainly is known to be a better king, even though David is not perfect.
Speaker AAnd I was having a discussion with.
Speaker AActually, I think it was Micah recently.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AWe watched the movie David.
Speaker ASo the cartoon one that just came out, and he was asking questions about Saul and David.
Speaker AHe's like, david was a better king, wasn't he?
Speaker AI was like, yeah, he was a better king.
Speaker AAnd he goes, yeah, he didn't do as much bad as Saul.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, well, actually, no, David did a lot of bad things.
Speaker AIt wasn't that David was better than Saul in the fact that he just did less bad things.
Speaker AThe difference was that David was a man after God's own heart.
Speaker AAs we saw a few chapters ago, where Saul was not a man after God's own heart.
Speaker ASaul was a man after his own heart or the people's heart.
Speaker AAnd so again, we look at this, and it's not a matter of performance.
Speaker AIt's not a matter of that David was just a better person.
Speaker AIt was the fact that David had a real relationship with God.
Speaker AAnd we see Saul, his relationship with God is very shallow.
Speaker AAnd in many cases, it's disobedient.
Speaker AAnd we see that's what Saul's issue was.
Speaker AAnd so we always think about that even in our own life.
Speaker AYou know, I don't look at someone in the church and say, well, you're a good Christian because you're a good person.
Speaker AOr.
Speaker AOr you're seeing blessings in your life because you're just so talented.
Speaker AThe Bible very clearly tells us that every good thing that we receive from God.
Speaker AThis is the book of James.
Speaker AJames, chapter one.
Speaker AEvery good gift and every perfect gift comes down from God.
Speaker AAnd so everything that we have in our life that is good is not because of me.
Speaker AIt's not because of you.
Speaker AIt's not because of our, our skills.
Speaker AIt's not because of our experience.
Speaker AIt's not because every blessing that we have in our life comes from God.
Speaker AAnd that's what we have to understand is that our growth doesn't come from just being a good person.
Speaker AOur blessings that we have with our family and our friends and our church is not just because we deserve it.
Speaker AIt's everything that we get is a gift of grace.
Speaker AAnd we have to thank the Lord.
Speaker AAnd every blessing that we have is because of our relationship with Him.
Speaker AHe is the vine.
Speaker AWe are the branches.
Speaker AYou can't have the branches without the vine, okay?
Speaker ABecause they would die.
Speaker ASo it's the vine that brings life to the branches.
Speaker AAnd so we, as the branches, have to tap into the vine so that we can understand the blessings and the fruit that we hopefully desire.
Speaker AAnd so we see Saul fruitless, we see Jonathan fruitful.
Speaker AReally, the test of the fruitfulness was not their action as much as it was the faith that drove the action for Jonathan.
Speaker ASo if we want fruit in our life, and I hope that we do.
Speaker AYou say fruit.
Speaker AWhat are you talking about?
Speaker ALike, I, you got an apple tree or.
Speaker ANo, I'm not talking about, like, literal fruit.
Speaker AI'm talking about biblical fruit.
Speaker AFruit meaning the blessings that we see working through us.
Speaker ABut if we want to be fruitful Christians, we can't be Christians that are all about ourselves, because then the, then the, the fruit would be man made fruit, and it'd be fruit that's rotten.
Speaker AIt'd be fruit that isn't lasting.
Speaker ASo the fruit that we want to see from God, the Bible speaks of that fruitfulness.
Speaker AAnd First Corinthians, chapter three, it doesn't say that the fruit comes from man.
Speaker AIt says, there are some that water, there's some that plant, but it's God who gives the increase.
Speaker AIt's God who gives the fruit.
Speaker AAnd so we can sow the seed, we can water the seed, but ultimately, it's the power of God that gives us that fruit.
Speaker AAnd so for Jonathan, it was the power of God that gave him that victory.
Speaker AAnd really, as we saw in that passage, it wasn't his victory.
Speaker AIt Was the Lord saving Israel?
Speaker AAnd I love the fact that when we take a step in faith, God works ahead of us, God works around us.
Speaker AI know that there's been times in my ministry and in my life that I have felt so inadequate and I have felt so concerned that I'm not enough.
Speaker AAnd I was talking to somebody one time, I was actually talking to a pastor friend of mine, and he says, what.
Speaker AWhat are you struggling with?
Speaker AI said, you know, I'm just.
Speaker AI'm struggling.
Speaker AI'm going to fail.
Speaker AAnd he was like, okay.
Speaker AAnd I said, you know, I. I'm struggling.
Speaker AI. I feel like I'm going to let the Lord down.
Speaker AAnd, and, you know, he looked at me and he said, I didn't know you were holding him up.
Speaker AAnd I was like, oh, that's a good point.
Speaker ABecause I was like, you know what?
Speaker AI.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker AWe put that burden upon ourselves to kind of be the one that's way, like, holding all the weight on us.
Speaker ABut what does the Bible say?
Speaker ACast our care upon him.
Speaker AHe cares for you.
Speaker ASo we don't have to.
Speaker AWe don't have to hold all that weight thinking that we're performative.
Speaker AAll we have to say is just, lord, I'm giving it all over to you.
Speaker AThat's all I can do.
Speaker AI'm broken.
Speaker AI am.
Speaker AThat's the most.
Speaker AI don't know about you guys, but the most.
Speaker AI, I would say this.
Speaker AI'm gonna get a little emotional here, but probably the most freeing comfort that I've ever experienced in my life was when I looked at the Lord and I said, I can't do it any.
Speaker AI can't do this.
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AI can't control this.
Speaker AIt's out of my.
Speaker AIt's out of my hands.
Speaker AI'm lost.
Speaker AI'm at the end of my rope.
Speaker AThat's really when I felt the presence of God come in and start to guide.
Speaker ABecause when we think we've got it under control, we in some ways are trying to manipulate a situation to make it seem like we've got it, but really we don't have it.
Speaker AIt's God who has it.
Speaker AAnd when.
Speaker AWhen.
Speaker ASometimes it takes a drastic situation.
Speaker ASometimes it takes what some people call rock bottom, or sometimes we just need to be awake.
Speaker ASomething, maybe life threatening comes in our life and, and.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AOr someone that we love and it really wakes us up to what really matters in life.
Speaker AAnd I can tell you there was.
Speaker AThere was one experience in my life that it's hard to explain other than the fact that I realized in that moment what matters and what doesn't matter.
Speaker AAnd for many years of my life, there were things that I thought mattered so much.
Speaker AAnd when God woke me up in that moment, he illuminated my eyes to the fact that all the things that I've been spending time on stressing about really don't mean anything in the grand scheme of eternity.
Speaker AThere's certain things that do, and there's certain things that don't.
Speaker AAnd we can't allow ourselves to get so burdened with the things that don't matter for eternity and forget about all the things that do matter for eternity.
Speaker AAnd for Saul, he was so caught up on people's opinion of him.
Speaker ASaul was caught up on whether or not the people would agree with his decisions.
Speaker ASaul was all about his own comfort.
Speaker AAnd then we see Jonathan saying, we're just going to go.
Speaker ALet's go see what happens.
Speaker AThis is what matters.
Speaker AAnd so I hope that that's something that you can do, take a step of faith in some capacity.
Speaker AI don't know where that's at in your life.
Speaker AFor all of us, we have to exercise faith daily.
Speaker AI don't know where your stretch of faith is right now.
Speaker AFor me, I know where it is.
Speaker AI'm thinking of something right this very second that I'm thinking, okay, Lord, give me the strength to have faith, to trust in you in this.
Speaker ABut all of us have some degree of a leap of faith right now, a step of faith.
Speaker AThere's a book out there called the Experiencing God.
Speaker AAnd he.
Speaker AHe calls that decision the crisis of faith, which basically, like, there is this pinch point that we really have to put the rubber to the road, and we have to say, this is really me making a decision, a crisis belief moment.
Speaker AAnd sometimes that's a difficult thing because it's easy for me to exercise faith when my whole freezer is full and my.
Speaker AMy refrigerator's full and I got my.
Speaker AMy third free.
Speaker AMy fridge and my garage is full.
Speaker AAnd that's easy for me to think, oh, give us this day our daily bread.
Speaker AAnd I'm thinking, well, you know what?
Speaker AIt's just a real struggle.
Speaker AIt's really not a struggle.
Speaker AWe don't.
Speaker AI don't struggle with that.
Speaker AI know where my next meal is coming.
Speaker AI know where my next 10 meals are coming from.
Speaker AProbably.
Speaker AThat's not really exercising faith.
Speaker AWell, with exercise, faith is.
Speaker AI've got nothing in the fridge.
Speaker AI got nothing in the freezer.
Speaker AI don't know what's going to come my next meal that's exercising faith.
Speaker ANow, I'm not saying that that's what we all should do.
Speaker AI'm not saying we should go throw away all of our food in our fridges.
Speaker AI'm saying we're greatly blessed in our country.
Speaker AWe're good.
Speaker AAnd many times the.
Speaker AThe nature of all the abundant material blessings in our life make us so numb to the fact that we should be tested in our face of.
Speaker AAnd sometimes God has to allow us to be tested in other areas of our life when we have so much material things.
Speaker AAnd sometimes God takes those material things away.
Speaker ASometimes God takes the physical away.
Speaker ASometimes God gives us a spiritual struggle that we have to really come down the line and say, lord, I have to really believe in you for this, and I don't want you to go through a trial to see that.
Speaker ABut nevertheless, it's not what I want, it's what happens.
Speaker AAnd sometimes we do have to go through those trials, those tests, so that we can see that true faith.
Speaker AAnd so we don't want necessarily to go through pain in our life, even though sometimes we see in the New Testament, there's guys that say things that I wrestle with.
Speaker ACount it all, joy when you fall into diverse temptations, you know, and there's guys that say, I, I look forward.
Speaker APaul talks about I glory in my infirmities.
Speaker AAnd I don't know if I'm completely there yet.
Speaker AI want to be there, but I'm not there yet.
Speaker AI certainly struggle with my infirmities.
Speaker ABut what the Bible says is that at some point in time, as we mature, we see our weaknesses as God's strength in our life.
Speaker AAnd that's when we can cling to him.
Speaker ASo we'll stop there and we'll come back next week looking at the end of 1st Samuel, chapter 14, Saul and the decisions that he makes that he leads other people into sin with.
Speaker AAnd hopefully it could be a lesson for us in the life of Saul not to do things right.
Speaker AWe know there's things in the Bible that are prescriptive, like we should do those things, like, I think we should act like Jonathan bold.
Speaker ABut also there's things that are, are, are descriptive or warnings, you know, like I, I try to tell people, you know, the book, the Book of Hosea.
Speaker AYou know anything about the Book of Hosea?
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI, I would not coach young men to follow the book of Isaiah or, excuse me, Hosea when it comes to marriage.
Speaker AOkay, that was a descriptive passage to talk about something else.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIf you know about Hosea God called Hosea to marry a prostitute and go through a life of pain and struggles with that whole decision.
Speaker AI'm not saying that that's something that we all should do.
Speaker AOkay, so we have to understand when we're reading the Life of Saul, it's not about following Saul's example.
Speaker AIt's actually warning ourselves against the description of what Saul did in his life so that we can avoid those pitfalls that he fell into.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see him spiral worse and worse to the fact that, like, he gets so deviant in the fact that he wants to kill David that he's willing to chase him all over the known world to get him.
Speaker AAnd it becomes becomes an obsession, really, which we'll talk about later.
Speaker AThank you again for listening to the Middletown Baptist Church podcast.
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