Election and Service: Unpacking Romans Chapter 9

Pastor Josh Massaro addresses a crucial theological inquiry during Sunday service at Middletown Baptist Church: the question of God's fidelity amidst Israel's rejection of Christ. In his exploration of Romans chapters 9, 10, and 11, he articulates that God's word has not faltered, affirming His sovereign plan for both Jews and Gentiles. The sermon elucidates the profound concept of divine election, illustrating that it is not grounded in lineage or human effort, but rather in God's sovereign will and purpose. Through scriptural references, Pastor Massaro emphasizes the necessity of understanding God's mercy and compassion as central to our faith journey. Ultimately, this discourse invites listeners to reflect on their relationship with God and the importance of extending mercy to others, aligning with the overarching theme of salvation for all who believe.
Takeaways:
- In Romans chapters 9, 10, and 11, Paul addresses the question of God's faithfulness to Israel amidst their rejection of Christ.
- The Apostle Paul emphasizes that God's promises and plans have not failed, as He is sovereign and works through both Jews and Gentiles.
- The blessings of Israel include their role as the custodians of God's oracles and the lineage through which Christ was born.
- Understanding the concept of election is crucial, as it pertains to God's sovereign choice in using certain individuals for His divine purposes.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:23 - Introduction to Romans Chapter Nine
11:21 - Understanding God's Sovereignty in Salvation
19:20 - Understanding Election and God's Purpose
35:52 - Understanding God's Sovereignty and Human Choice
37:45 - God's Sovereignty and Human Responsibility
49:09 - Understanding God's Mercy and Sovereignty
Hello and welcome to the Middletown Baptist Church Podcast, where we are proclaiming the truth to the world.
Speaker AMy name is Pastor Josh and I want to thank you for listening to this podcast.
Speaker AI hope that this podcast can be a blessing to you and strengthen you in the word of God.
Speaker ANow come along, let's look into the Bible and see what God has for us here today.
Speaker AWe're going to be in Romans Chapter nine.
Speaker AWe're going to continue our series here in the Book of Romans.
Speaker AAnd I encourage you if you have not been following along with us in the Book of Romans.
Speaker AWe've been in the Book of Romans, obviously, for a long time.
Speaker AAnd if you ever have any time throughout the week and you have an opportunity to check out one of our past sermons, I think it would be good to understand context as we're coming into Romans chapter 9, 10 and 11, because we talked a little bit about this last week.
Speaker ARomans 9, 10 and 11.
Speaker AIs Paul addressing the question of, well, did God fail?
Speaker ABecause obviously at this point, the majority of the religious people of the Jewish faith, the folks that God had brought the word of God through, and obviously Jesus was born as Messiah in the land of Israel.
Speaker AWhat happens now?
Speaker AThey have turned their backs for the most part.
Speaker AHas God failed?
Speaker AAnd so really what we see is Paul explaining that God has not failed and that God has a plan for believers, Gentiles and Jews alike.
Speaker AWe saw that at the very beginning of Romans chapter 1.
Speaker ARomans chapter 1, verse 16 tells us that the Gospel is there not just for the Jew, even though it says for the Jew first, but also to the Greek or to the Gentile.
Speaker AFor I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone, everyone that believe it, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Speaker AAnd so Paul's idea here in chapters 9, 10 and 11 is that, yes, God has not failed.
Speaker AHe is not forgetting.
Speaker AAnd so what we're going to see here is that Paul goes through and he explains what was the blessing of the Jews, what was the blessing of the Israelites.
Speaker AAnd In Romans chapter 9, verse 4, he explains who were the Israelites to whom pertaineth the adoption.
Speaker ANow, what's the adoption?
Speaker AThe adoption was essentially God selecting them, electing them for the cause of bringing his word into the world, agents of his plan.
Speaker AAnd then he says more, the glory.
Speaker AThat's the.
Speaker AThe word.
Speaker AThere we get the word Shekinah.
Speaker AYou've heard of that?
Speaker AMaybe in the Old Testament, the glory of God, the glory of God fell to the People of Israel.
Speaker AAnd it was evidenced through many of the miracles that were seen in the Old Testament.
Speaker AAnd then he goes on to say the covenants, and we already mentioned the covenants last week, but you had the Mosaic covenant, the, the Davidic covenants, and those covenants, those promises that God gave to his people.
Speaker AAnd so he's explaining all of the ways in which God used the Israelites for his purpose of bringing the good truth, the word of God to the world.
Speaker AAnd then he says the law.
Speaker AWe remember that through the book of, really through Genesis, through Deuteronomy, we.
Speaker AWe see that picture of God revealing the law in the book of Exodus and, and Leviticus and, and numbers and Deuteronomy and all that.
Speaker AWe see how that rolls into the picture.
Speaker AThen he goes on to say, in the service of God.
Speaker AAnd, and so they had the opportunity to serve God, or the idea here would be worship God.
Speaker AGod, explain how to worship him through the Israelites.
Speaker AAnd then he says, and the promises, whose are the fathers?
Speaker AThat's the patriarchs, those ones that came before, of whom as concerning the flesh, Christ came, meaning Jesus came in the flesh as a Jew, as the people of Israel understood to be at that case.
Speaker ANow, many of them are rejecting Jesus at this point.
Speaker ABut he says, these were the blessings.
Speaker AThis is the way that God used them.
Speaker AAnd you can even look back in Romans chapter 3.
Speaker ARomans chapter 3 says, One of the blessings of being the people of Israel was that they were entrusted with the oracles of God.
Speaker AThat's what verse two says in Romans chapter three.
Speaker ABecause the question was, is, well, what was the advantage of being a Jew, right?
Speaker AIf they're not believing now, what's the advantage if a Gentile can be saved?
Speaker AWhat's the advantage?
Speaker AAnd Paul even says in verse 1 of Romans 3, what advantage then hath the Jew, or what prophet is there of circumcision?
Speaker ABut every way, chiefly because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Speaker ASo again, we're trying to read the book of Romans in context.
Speaker AWe don't want to see Romans 9 as its own thing out here teaching something outside of what Paul is trying to explain.
Speaker ASo Paul has been saying since the very beginning that the Gospel is for the Jew and for the Greek, for the Gentile.
Speaker ASo essentially the Gospel is for all.
Speaker AAnd then the other question would be this.
Speaker AWell, then, what was the benefit of being a Jew?
Speaker AWhat was the benefit of being from the people of Israel?
Speaker AHe says they were entrusted with the oracles of God.
Speaker AAnd then he reiterates that in Romans 9, 4 and 5, he says that there were these great blessings of God giving them that opportunity to bring forth the word of God.
Speaker AAnd so you have to understand their confusion, because as Paul is writing this letter to the church at Rome, there's going to be people in Rome that are Gentile believers that are reading this and understanding the Gospel.
Speaker AAnd remember, he's laid out for them the.
Speaker AThe gospel.
Speaker AHe's laid out for them the truth of salvation.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe's laid out for them that they're all guilty in their sin.
Speaker AHe's laid out for them how to be saved, what it means to be saved, and what it means to walk in that newness of life.
Speaker ABut then you have to understand too that there were Jewish believers there in Rome, and they're confused because they're like, now the Gentiles are pulled in.
Speaker AWhat does it mean for us?
Speaker ADid God fail us?
Speaker AAnd then the question would even ripple into the Gentiles.
Speaker AWell, if God failed Israel, did he fail?
Speaker AWill he fail us?
Speaker AAnd so at this point, most Jewish people had rejected Jesus.
Speaker AWe can see that back in the book of John.
Speaker AI want you to see John chapter one.
Speaker AI'm going to try to use as many cross references as I can so that you can see what we're talking about here.
Speaker AAnd Romans 9 is such a complex chapter in Scripture because if taken in a certain interpretation, it can teach to some people.
Speaker AAnd some people interpret it to be that God selected a certain amount of people that he loves.
Speaker AAnd then he also at the 12, say this, he came unto his own.
Speaker AThis is talking about Jesus.
Speaker AAnd his own received him not.
Speaker ASo his own people turned their backs on Him.
Speaker AThey did not receive him, they did not believe.
Speaker ANow, sometimes people have a hard time with understanding, well, you don't receive Jesus.
Speaker AJesus just forces himself upon you.
Speaker AThat's one concept that we see many people teaching in Romans chapter nine.
Speaker AWell, we see right here in John chapter one that there are some who don't receive.
Speaker AHis own people don't receive.
Speaker ABut then in verse 12, we see that some do receive.
Speaker AHe, he says, but as many as received Him.
Speaker AAnd then to them gave he the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.
Speaker ASo the way that we receive him is by believing on his name.
Speaker AThat's what the Bible tells us there in John chapter one.
Speaker ASo many people have rejected Jesus at this point in time.
Speaker AAnd when I say this point in time, I don't mean today.
Speaker AEven though we know that many people reject Jesus Today, but we're talking about in the context of the book of Romans.
Speaker AMany people have rejected Jesus.
Speaker AAnd so what Paul is trying to explain and what he's trying to delineate is that has God's plan failed?
Speaker ANo, he has not.
Speaker AIs God's word still good?
Speaker AYes, it still is.
Speaker AAnd so he's explaining his heart for the people that have rejected.
Speaker AAnd we even saw in verses 1, 2, and 3, he says, My heart is for my people.
Speaker AMy heart is heavy, My heart is full of sorrow because many people have rejected.
Speaker AAnd if you remember, he's willing to say, I will give up my salvation so that my people will be saved.
Speaker AAnd so what is he saying here?
Speaker AHe says in verse 6, this is his main thought here, verse 6.
Speaker ANot as though the word of God hath taken none effect, meaning this God's word has not failed.
Speaker AAnd I think that's a good reminder for us in any case, because there's going to be times in our life that we are tempted to question God.
Speaker AAnd I, I think that it's important to note that we can ask God questions.
Speaker AIt's completely biblical to ask God questions.
Speaker AWe see that throughout the Bible.
Speaker AAnd so it's one thing to ask God questions, it's another thing to question God.
Speaker AAnd I hope we understand the difference of those two things because sometimes in our life there, there are things that we don't understand.
Speaker AThere, there are things that don't make sense, there's things that don't add up.
Speaker AAnd we might ask God, lord, why?
Speaker AWhat, what are you doing through this?
Speaker AAnd he may give us an answer or he might not give us an answer.
Speaker AWe see examples of both in the Scriptures, but we also know that it is wrong to question the character of God or, or question the efficacy of God or his power or his holiness.
Speaker AAnd, and so what Paul is saying here is, no, God's word has not failed.
Speaker AAnd I think that for some of us today, the message that we could take with us is this.
Speaker AWhether or not you are feeling good in your life, physically, emotionally, spiritually, whether or not you look around and see things playing out the way that we expect them to play out, the reminder for us is that God's word has not failed.
Speaker AIt's not failing right now, and it never will fail.
Speaker AThe Bible says that the grass withereth, the flower fadeth, but the word of God stands forever.
Speaker AIt stands true.
Speaker AAnd so in times in which we don't feel that we understand or in times that we're in doubt, the problem is not The Lord, the problem is us and it's the problem of faith.
Speaker AIt's maybe a problem of wisdom or discernment.
Speaker AAnd so what Paul is saying here is that even though they might be confused about why many of God's own people at that point in time have turned their backs against him, against Jesus, he says, hey, it's not that God's word has failed.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AFor they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.
Speaker AAnd he's going to describe that and explain that here.
Speaker AAnd so the word of God is just as powerful as it's ever been.
Speaker AAnd he says the, the plan of God is just as powerful as it ever has been.
Speaker AIt's not that God has failed.
Speaker AIt's not that God is surprised.
Speaker AIt's not that God didn't know that this was coming.
Speaker AHe understands this and he is using other people's bad decisions for his good.
Speaker AAnd we're going to talk a lot about this word sovereignty.
Speaker AAnd you hear the word sovereignty thrown around a lot in Christian circles.
Speaker AAnd I want you to understand God's power is so powerful that it's not that he forces us to do everything.
Speaker AA lot of people take that God is deterministic and meaning everybody that's doing anything, whether it be good or bad, is ordained by God.
Speaker ASo that would mean that God would actually be ordaining sin.
Speaker AI don't believe that that's a good explanation of biblical sovereignty.
Speaker ABiblical sovereignty or all powerful nature is that God can do anything through our bad decisions.
Speaker AFor example, God gives us a choice to do good or bad.
Speaker AAnd even if we do bad, God will still work his plan out for good.
Speaker AWe saw that in Romans chapter 8.
Speaker AThere's a reminder that no matter what we do, God is still working out his plan in this world.
Speaker ASo we can't limit God, we can't stop God, we can't thwart the plans of God with our bad decisions.
Speaker AAnd that's a good thing.
Speaker AThat actually shows that God is completely sovereign because he can make decisions and he can do things even when we're making bad decisions.
Speaker ASo, so for me, if my kids are doing everything right, hey, I look like a good dad.
Speaker AWhat happens when my kids do bad things?
Speaker AThat throws me off.
Speaker AAnd sometimes I'm having a good day because my kids are good.
Speaker AAnd sometimes I'm having a real bad day as a parent because my kids are being bad.
Speaker AAnd the idea is, is that I'm limited to some degree with how I am leading my family in the fact that my children might make the bad decisions, and I'm limited in that.
Speaker ABut even when God's children make bad decisions, he's still above and beyond capable and all powerful to work out his plan.
Speaker AAnd so that's what he's saying there.
Speaker AAnd he says some people that claim to be the people of God are, are not the people of God.
Speaker AAnd so he's essentially saying it's a small group who believe.
Speaker AAnd it's always been a subset.
Speaker AIt's always been a small group.
Speaker AIt's never been the majority that believe.
Speaker AAnd so he's going to explain here, and I think this is a point that we all have to understand in the context of what we're reading here in Romans chapter 9.
Speaker AThe first point is this.
Speaker AYou don't have to have special status.
Speaker AYou don't have special status due to physical birth at this point in time.
Speaker AHe's saying according to salvation.
Speaker AAnd he mentioned that back in Romans Chapter one.
Speaker AIt's not about being born as a person in Israel.
Speaker AIt's not about being born in America.
Speaker AIt's not about being born into a rich family.
Speaker AIt's not about being born into a family of status.
Speaker AHe says here it's all about faith.
Speaker AAnd he says, so some people that claim to be those people are not those people.
Speaker AAnd, and so he's going to use Abraham as an example for that.
Speaker AAnd, and again, I think that one of the problems that we see in Romans Chapter nine is that people, some interpret.
Speaker ARomans Chapter nine is only solely talking about individual effectual salvation.
Speaker AAnd I, I don't want to lose you guys here this morning.
Speaker ARomans 9 in and of itself is very difficult because it talks a lot about theology.
Speaker AIt talks a lot about hypothetical situations.
Speaker AAnd he says, okay, if this, then this be the case.
Speaker AAnd, and then he's going to talk a lot about Old Testament stuff.
Speaker ANow I will say it's not just me, but even Peter.
Speaker AIn second, Peter says that Paul's writings are difficult to understand.
Speaker AOkay, so, so we're not talking bad about Paul by saying his stuff is difficult because even Peter said that.
Speaker AAnd so even though it's difficult sometimes it's important and needed.
Speaker ASome things in life that are difficult are important to understand.
Speaker ASo what does he say here?
Speaker AHe says, okay, verse seven, neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children, but in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Speaker ASo you might say, what on earth is he talking about?
Speaker ATo understand Romans 9, you have to know about the lineage in the Old Testament.
Speaker AIf you don't know the lineage in the Old Testament, you're going to see names here.
Speaker AYou're going to say, what does that even mean?
Speaker ASo I'm going to try to do my best to walk us through this.
Speaker AHe says basically not all of Abraham's lineage is true Israel.
Speaker AThat's what he's saying here.
Speaker AYou say, well, I thought that it's the line of Abraham.
Speaker AWell, it's one line of Abraham.
Speaker ABut did you guys know that Abraham, did he only have one son, Isaac?
Speaker ANo, he had more sons.
Speaker AHe actually had.
Speaker AHe actually, a lot of people would say two.
Speaker AAnd that's partially right.
Speaker AHe had Ishmael.
Speaker ABut if you know this later on in his life, he actually had all together eight sons.
Speaker ANot all of eight sons were used to pass along the oracles of God.
Speaker AIt was, what does it say here?
Speaker AIt was only through Isaac.
Speaker ASo it was the line that was through Isaac, which the Bible tells us that Isaac was the child of promise.
Speaker AHe was the child of faith, not the child of flesh.
Speaker AIshmael was the child of flesh.
Speaker ASo it was God's ordination, it was God's election.
Speaker AIt was God's plan that the oracles of his word would be passed not through all of Abraham's lineage, but through the lineage of Isaac.
Speaker ANow what does that mean for us today?
Speaker AThat means that God does use certain individuals for certain purposes.
Speaker AAnd it's not that he hates other people, which we're going to talk a little bit more about that as it goes along.
Speaker ANot that they don't have a chance to believe.
Speaker ABut what we're seeing here is that he says it was through Isaac that God's plan would come to pass.
Speaker AAnd so the promise came not through Ishmael, not through the other sons, but it came through Isaac.
Speaker AAnd so the promise of God came through Isaac, the child of promise.
Speaker AAnd so nobody gets a special blessing just because of lineage.
Speaker AWe know that.
Speaker AWe know that.
Speaker AIt's not just like, so, for example, it's not saying this.
Speaker AWell, all of us are from Abraham, so all of us get this blessing.
Speaker AHe says, no, it's just the line of, of, of Isaac.
Speaker AI want you to see a reference in the book of John that, or, excuse me, the book of Luke that talks about this, Luke 3, 8.
Speaker AActually, what was happening here is that John the Baptist was condemning some individuals that said, hey, I'm in the bloodline of Abraham, so I'm okay, I don't need to believe, I don't need to have faith.
Speaker AI, I, I, I am part of Abraham's lineage.
Speaker AAnd, and so what John is going to tell them is that, hey, look, it's not just about being the bloodline of Abraham.
Speaker AIt's about, it's about faith.
Speaker AIt's about belief.
Speaker AAnd so in, in Luke chapter three, we'll go up to verse number seven because I think this is important for us to see.
Speaker AIt says, then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come.
Speaker ABring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance.
Speaker ASo he says, don't just come and go through the motions.
Speaker AYou have to come with repentance and begin not to say within yourselves, we have Abraham to our Father.
Speaker ASo a lot of people were just saying, well, I'm from the bloodline of Abraham, so I'm okay, I don't need to be repentant.
Speaker ASo we have Abraham, our father.
Speaker AFor I say unto you that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham, meaning God doesn't need you.
Speaker AGod.
Speaker AGod is allowing you to be part of his plan if you're willing.
Speaker ABut God doesn't need you because he can raise up these stones to be his children.
Speaker AAnd so what the Bible is teaching against here is that people having this type of what we would consider entitlement, saying, I don't need to come to God his way because I'm part of the bloodline.
Speaker AAnd so that's what Romans chapter nine is talking about.
Speaker ANot all the people that are from Abraham are chosen to do the work of the promise of God, the oracles of God.
Speaker AAnd so he speaks more to this.
Speaker AAnd so essentially what we would say is that Isaac was elected to, to have the promise pass through him.
Speaker ASo you hear a lot of, in the Bible the word election.
Speaker AAnd some people are afraid of that word election because election sounds like to many people that God sits up there arbitrarily and points to one person and says he's going to be saved, but he's not going to be saved.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to force this person not to be saved because of my glory.
Speaker AWell, that's one interpretation of that word election.
Speaker ABut I want you to think about the word election in the concept of selection, like being selected for a purpose, right?
Speaker AThat's what we do with our, our.
Speaker AWhether you agree with who's elected or not in politics.
Speaker AThat's what we do with politicians, right?
Speaker AWe, we elect them, we.
Speaker AWe choose them, not just to sit.
Speaker ANow sometimes one would argue that people don't do the job that we're electing them for.
Speaker ABut that's for a different day and a different time.
Speaker AOkay, but in, in theory, right, we elect somebody for a job to work and have a specific purpose for that job.
Speaker ASo whatever their role is, that's what I believe election is in Scripture, that when we come to Christ, we are part of election and we are elected for a specific purpose.
Speaker AAnd so in this case, Isaac was elected to pass on the promise of God.
Speaker ASo think about it this way.
Speaker AElected, selected for a special service.
Speaker AAnd we even know that it's unique because he's not even the oldest.
Speaker AHe's not the one that's expected Ishmael would be expected.
Speaker ALater on we're going to see that Jacob was elected over Esau, which it's amazing to see that God doesn't need to use the ones that we consider to be the strongest.
Speaker AGod can use anybody, and he has the prerogative to do so, to use for specific things.
Speaker AAnd so certain people are elected for certain aspects of service.
Speaker ASo, so we go a little bit further here.
Speaker AAnd so, so verse seven says, not everyone that comes from Abraham passed along the promise.
Speaker AIt was only through Isaac, that is they which are the children of the flesh.
Speaker AAnd these are not the children of God.
Speaker ASo there are individuals who were walking in the flesh.
Speaker AThey were individuals who were not in faith.
Speaker AAnd he says here, they were not elected by God to do the work, but the children of promise are counted for the seed.
Speaker AFor this is the word of promise.
Speaker AAt this time will I come and Sarah shall have a son.
Speaker ASo he says, that was the word of promise, and the fulfillment of that was the election of Isaac.
Speaker AThen we go further, and not only this, but when a Rebecca.
Speaker ANow who's Rebecca?
Speaker ARebecca was the wife of Isaac.
Speaker AAnd so Isaac and Rebecca have children.
Speaker AThere's two children.
Speaker AAnd you guys are aware of that story, hopefully Esau and Jacob.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see here that even Isaac's wife Rebecca is filled into the purpose of passing along the seed and the election.
Speaker AGod's choice.
Speaker AAnd so it isn't a matter of your lineage, right?
Speaker AGod has the prerogative to use anybody in anything.
Speaker AAnd then we see point number two.
Speaker AIt isn't a matter of works, verse 11.
Speaker AFor the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand not of works, but of him that calleth.
Speaker ASo, so we see that it's not a matter of your lineage.
Speaker AGod can use anybody.
Speaker AHe chose to use certain people.
Speaker AHe chose to use Isaac, he chose to use Jacob, he chose to use the people of Israel.
Speaker ABut then we see here that it's not about your lineage and it's not about your works.
Speaker ASometimes people think that, well, God's going to use me because I'm a good person.
Speaker AI have a lot to bring to the table.
Speaker AAnd then we have someone else that might say, you know what?
Speaker AI don't have any talents.
Speaker AI don't, I don't have any giftings.
Speaker AEven though if you're a believer, you do have giftings.
Speaker ABut sometimes the perception is, is that person is not the one that we would select.
Speaker AWe would definitely select this one.
Speaker AIsn't that kind of how God always works in Scripture?
Speaker AWe see that with, with Isaac, we see that with Jacob, we see that even with David, right?
Speaker ARemember, David was, was selected as king and he was like the afterthought.
Speaker AHe was out in the fields and all the good brothers came forward and they had him lined up.
Speaker AAnd God says, no, I'm going to use David.
Speaker AI'm going to use the one that is considered not by many to be the most powerful, not to be the wisest, not to be the oldest, but the one that I have selected to do my work.
Speaker AAgain, let me be clear.
Speaker AI'm not personally talking about this being to effectual salvation.
Speaker AI'm talking about God using us for specific purposes in service.
Speaker AAnd so we look at a certain individual like Paul many times.
Speaker AYou think about Paul and you think about Paul being just this great preacher, this, this amazing, powerful, loud voice, maybe even a strong physical body.
Speaker ABut if you actually read Paul's description of himself coming to the church at Corinth, he actually talks about being weak in the knees and, and stuttering in his speech and being nervous and cautious and, and not being as what we would consider to be this big orator.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat's the idea that God uses individuals not according to their works, not according to their status, but according to his decision.
Speaker AAnd he equips us to do certain things in election.
Speaker ASo verse number 11, for the children being not yet born.
Speaker ASo obviously this is a decision that God makes before Jacob and Esau are born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to that election might stand again, not of works, but of him that calleth.
Speaker AAnd so Jacob the Younger was selected.
Speaker AHe was chosen by God for a purpose, to pass along the oracles of God.
Speaker ASo yes, God made a sovereign choice, but it wasn't on a matter of works.
Speaker AIt wasn't on a Matter of status.
Speaker AIt was on a matter of his decision.
Speaker ASo the interpretation would be this.
Speaker AI know this is sometimes difficult, but we've got to talk through this because we have to make sure we understand what God is talking about here.
Speaker ASo election, in my opinion, okay, I'm not saying that I'm the only person that has an opinion on this, and I'm not saying that I'm the foremost in this topic.
Speaker ABut what I will say is this election, in my opinion, is not a reference to individual salvation, but an election or a special call to service in him.
Speaker AAnd so when Scripture is talking about election, it's talking about the corporate elect.
Speaker AThose that believe in Jesus are all called for a specific use in their life, a specific purpose.
Speaker AAnd that's what we even read in ephesians A, chapter 2.
Speaker AIf you go back, if you go back to Ephesians chapter two, this is where we started our day today.
Speaker AAnd I want you to see this because remember who we were before we were in Christ, who we were in our sin.
Speaker AIt says in verse one that we were dead in our trespasses.
Speaker ANow, there are some people that will use Ephesians chapter 2 and try to reconcile it with Romans chapter 9 and say, if we are dead in our trespasses, there's no way that we can respond.
Speaker AA dead man doesn't respond.
Speaker ALike, you know, like if we had a funeral service here, there was someone that was in the casket and they just jumped up and started talking.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's not typical, right?
Speaker AThat, that would be a miraculous work.
Speaker AAnd so a dead man can't respond unless God brings life to them.
Speaker ABut I will also argue here that in Ephesians chapter two, he's talking about being dead in our outcome, right?
Speaker AIn our sin.
Speaker ASin brings the death penalty.
Speaker ASo in essence, someone, let's say, for example, someone's on death row, they're not necessarily dead yet, but what we would say is they're dead.
Speaker ALike the outcome of their life is death, right?
Speaker AWe know that that's inevitable.
Speaker AAnd for all of us in sin, it's an inevitability of death.
Speaker AAnd then he says, this is how you were in your sin.
Speaker AAnd he talks about walking in the course of this world.
Speaker AHe's talking about following the prince of the power of the air, the enemy, the.
Speaker AThe work, walking in the spirit as a child of disobedience.
Speaker AAnd he talks about our conversation, our lifestyle, being full of lust of the flesh, desires of our flesh and our mind.
Speaker AHe says all these things, and he says in verse four, but God, who is rich in mercy, and he talks about God's love that, that he displayed for us and giving us Jesus Christ.
Speaker AAnd he says, that is Jesus, when we trust in him, that brings us to life.
Speaker AAnd he says, Verse 8, for by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves.
Speaker AIt is the gift of God.
Speaker AOf course, it's not of ourselves.
Speaker AWe didn't work our way to do it.
Speaker AWe're receiving a gift, remember John 1:12, to receive those that received him, not of works, lest any man should boast.
Speaker ASo salvation is because God has given us a gift.
Speaker AAnd then when we trust in that gift, when we receive that gift, we are able to walk in newness of life and have that salvation.
Speaker AThen he says, that's not the end though, because sometimes people think, well, it's, it's, I'm saved, I'm good, I'm done.
Speaker AThat's it, I'm over.
Speaker AI believed.
Speaker ANow I just wait until I go to heaven.
Speaker ABut the Bible says, no, there's a purpose for our salvation.
Speaker AAnd he says in verse 10, and for we are his workmanship.
Speaker AAnd so what it is is that God has worked in us and he's got a plan for us.
Speaker AAnd he says, we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works.
Speaker ASo the works don't save us, but we are saved to work.
Speaker AAnd then he says, which God hath before ordained, meaning God at the beginning of time has ordained that we should walk in these things.
Speaker AAnd so we all have a purpose.
Speaker AWe all have that election to serve him at whatever capacity he has called us to serve.
Speaker ASo let's go back to Romans 9 with that being in mind.
Speaker AI believe that that election that we see in Romans chapter nine, that's talked about especially in the sense of, of work and throughout all the New Testament, election is specifically a corporate election, not an individual election.
Speaker AAnd so the election is a special call to service, not an individual salvation.
Speaker AThat's, that's the interpretation that we're taking in Romans chapter nine.
Speaker AAt least that's what, what I'm taking.
Speaker ASo what we can see here as we go a little bit further, verse 12, it says, it was said unto her, the elder shall serve the younger.
Speaker AAnd we know that that was talking about Esau serving Jacob.
Speaker AAs it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Speaker ANow this is another verse that's highly contested, and this is one that I believe is, is highly misinterpreted when it comes to this idea of God hating Esau.
Speaker ABecause what some people take in this verse is that God loves some that he calls an election, and only those can be saved.
Speaker AAnd there's no way that you can get around that.
Speaker AAnd on the other side of things, God, from the beginning of time, before you were born, hated some and gave hope to them in no way to be saved.
Speaker AAnd so what's he talking about here?
Speaker AWhat is he talking about when he talks about Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated?
Speaker AWell, there's a lot of argument on this, but God does have the prerogative or sovereignty to use anyone for his special service.
Speaker AWe know that he can use a Jew.
Speaker AWe know that he can use a Gentile.
Speaker AWe know that he can use someone of wealth, of someone of poverty.
Speaker AAnd so we know that it was God's choice to use the nation of Israel, and so he preferred Jacob over Esau.
Speaker AAnd we know that today God is choices to build the church and build his kingdom through the church.
Speaker AAnd so how does God curate the Gospel message is what we're talking about here.
Speaker AThat's what we're really talking about.
Speaker AHow does God deliver the gospel message in this world today?
Speaker AWell, in the Old Testament and, and leading up there to the book of Romans, it was essentially through the nation of Israel.
Speaker ANow, we know that God has opened the door to the church, and we know that the church today has the responsibility to curate the Gospel message to the world, being the pillar and ground of truth.
Speaker AAnd so verse 12 tells us that the elder serves the younger.
Speaker AAnd then he says in verse 13, this Old Testament reference, this is actually a reference to a passage of Scripture in the book of Malachi, Malachi Chapter one.
Speaker AAnd he quotes Malachi chapter one.
Speaker ASo if anytime Paul is quoting an Old Testament passage, it's important to go back to, to that Old Testament passage to understand the context.
Speaker ASometimes people think, well, Paul's quoting an Old Testament passage, but he's not using in the same context as the Old Testament.
Speaker AHe's trying to get his own point across.
Speaker AI, I think he's using it in context.
Speaker AAnd so Malachi chapter one specifically talks about this very thing, that God loves Esau and he hates Jacob.
Speaker ABut in Malachi Chapter one, we're not going to have enough time to go through the whole book of Malachi here this morning.
Speaker ABut what I will say is that in Malachi Chapter one, God is talking to them as nations.
Speaker AYou have Israel, which, if you remember Jacob, right, Jacob's name got changed to what, Israel, right?
Speaker AAnd then we had Esau, Esau was the father of the were in rebellion.
Speaker AIsrael was in favor with God.
Speaker AAnd so in Malachi, chapter one, God is speaking of his condemnation against Esau and by greater extent, the Edomites, who were in rebellion to God.
Speaker AAnd then he was saying that he loves Jacob, Jacob is favored.
Speaker AAnd anytime we see this idea of love, we're seeing that God, God's favor over another, God's favor over another.
Speaker ASo in Malachi, chapter one, verse three, he's speaking about God loving Israel, God preparing Israel, God protecting Israel.
Speaker ASo this is essentially what he's explaining here.
Speaker AGod is telling Israel to find assurance in his election for them to bring forth the oracles of God.
Speaker ATherefore, he's going to protect them, preserve them, and love them.
Speaker ASo his choice of them, he wanted them to understand that they were chosen and that they were favored above Esau and the Edomites.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause, number one, the Edomites were evil.
Speaker ABut again, we know that even back further, that God chose Jacob over Esau for the oracles of God, for the message of God.
Speaker AThey saw that God chose to preserve Israel and punish the.
Speaker ASo with that context, we see, going back to Romans chapter 9, that God is essentially favoring Jacob over Esau.
Speaker AAnd then we see this idea in verse 13, but Esau, have I hated now?
Speaker ADoes God hate people?
Speaker ADoes God hate those that are unsaved?
Speaker AWell, there, that's a tough question.
Speaker ABut at the end of the day, yes, we know that God hates evil.
Speaker AWe know that God hates rebellion.
Speaker ABut in this case, the question would be, did Esau even have a choice to be saved?
Speaker AI believe that everyone has a choice to be saved.
Speaker AAnd so I think that when we see this idea of love, hate, we're not talking about one is loved and one is saved.
Speaker AOne is hateful, and therefore he is not saved.
Speaker AIt's this idea of favoring one above the other.
Speaker AI want you to see an example of this in Luke chapter 14.
Speaker ALuke chapter 14 speaks of some aspects of love and hate.
Speaker AAnd I want you to see in this context what we're explaining, because I think that sometimes when we see that word hate, we take it in the idea of.
Speaker AOf hating, rejecting, hurting, being against.
Speaker ABut In Luke chapter 14, we're actually told that the cost of discipleship is that we're supposed to hate our family.
Speaker ANow, that boggles our mind.
Speaker AAnd some of us understand the explanation there.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo what God calls me to do as a disciple is to hate my family, but also love my family.
Speaker AYou say what?
Speaker AWell, doesn't the Bible tell Me to love my.
Speaker AMy children, to love my wife, to respect my parents, to honor my parents.
Speaker ABut then in the same vein, we see that the Bible says that we're supposed to hate our family.
Speaker AWell, that.
Speaker AThat doesn't make any sense in the literal sense.
Speaker ABut what we see in verse number 25 of Luke 14, and there went great multitudes with him, and turned and said unto him.
Speaker AAnd this is what he says to them.
Speaker AIf any man come to me and hate not his father and his mother and his wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, his also life.
Speaker AHis.
Speaker AHis life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Speaker ANow, again, let's understand what Jesus is trying to say there.
Speaker ADo we believe that Jesus is telling the disciple to hate his wife?
Speaker AWell, that would contradict what he says in other passages about us being one flesh.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat would contradict other passages of scripture where Paul mentions that the.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe man.
Speaker AThe husband is supposed to love his wife as Christ loved the church.
Speaker ASo, so how can we rectify that idea?
Speaker AHow does.
Speaker AHow can we reconcile the idea that Jesus tells us to hate our family, but then he also tells us to love our family?
Speaker AWell, again, I believe it's an explanation of preferring a relationship.
Speaker ASo preferring our relationship with God, putting our relationship with God before the others.
Speaker AAnd so in comparison, it.
Speaker AIt looks like hate.
Speaker AYou've heard that before, right?
Speaker AMy love for God, my devotion for God should seem so over and above and beyond that my love for other people should look like hate.
Speaker ASo God is not telling me to hate my wife.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AMen don't read Luke chapter 14 and say, well, here's my excuse that I can hate my wife if I'm a disciple.
Speaker AI can hate my mom and dad.
Speaker AI can.
Speaker AI can hate my family.
Speaker ANo, that's not what he's saying.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe's saying here that we as Christians, we as disciples, should put our relationship with God first.
Speaker ABecause if I put my relationship with my wife or my children or my parents or even myself before my relationship with God, I'm not in the right place.
Speaker AAnd so it's a matter of comparison.
Speaker AAnd so in the same case, I believe that that's what that's talking about when it comes to this idea of Esau and Jacob.
Speaker AIt's not that God despised Esau and hated him from birth and said this little baby is.
Speaker AIs.
Speaker AIs in rejection to me.
Speaker AWhat he's saying here is that his relationship with Jacob was so much greater and so much more focus, that in comparison, his love for Esau would be seen as hate.
Speaker AAnd so God chose Jacob for a specific purpose above Esau.
Speaker AAnd what was that purpose?
Speaker ATo reveal himself to the world.
Speaker AAnd we, we, we actually know that to be the case because that actual passage of Scripture with, with that in mind, has a picture of what we're going to see in, in Amos, chapter 9 through 12, or 9 and 12.
Speaker AGo, go there with me.
Speaker AWe're going to go to two passages, one in the Old Testament and one in the New.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see two references to this idea of, of Esau and Esau being rejected and Esau being the one who is not favored over, over Jacob.
Speaker ASo go there with me.
Speaker AI'm, I know we're going to a lot of different passages of Scripture, so I've got to catch up with myself here.
Speaker ASo the book of Amos, I, I guarantee you don't go to Amos that often unless you do, unless that's your favorite book.
Speaker AIf you, your book of Amos is your favorite book, come talk to me after the service.
Speaker AI'd really love to have that discussion with you.
Speaker ABut Amos chapter 9, verse 12 speaks to the same idea.
Speaker AAnd, and, and the reason why we're trying to go here is because I want you to see that all of Scripture is tied together.
Speaker AAnd so it says that they may possess the remnant of Edom and of all the heathen which are called by my name, sayeth the Lord that doeth this.
Speaker AAnd so this idea here is that there, there would be a remnant of, of Edom.
Speaker ABut then ultimately, what we know in Acts chapter 15 is that this passage itself is quoted by the New Testament church.
Speaker AActs chapter 15, Acts chapter 15, verses 16 and 17.
Speaker AWe actually see that this passage of scripture in the Old Testament, the book of Amos, is used as a reference piece to folding in the Gentiles, folding in those that are not of Jewish descent to the church.
Speaker AActs 15, 16 and 17.
Speaker AAfter this I will return and I will build again this tabernacle of David which is fallen down.
Speaker AAnd I will build again the ruins thereof.
Speaker AAnd I will set it up that the residue of men might seek after the Lord and all the Gentiles upon whom my name is called, sayeth the Lord, who doeth all these things.
Speaker AAnd so there, there is always an opportunity.
Speaker ASo some people look at Esau and they say, Esau didn't have a chance.
Speaker ASo does that mean whoever the are don't have a chance to be saved?
Speaker ADoes that mean that the Gentiles don't have a chance to be saved?
Speaker AIt's only Through Israel.
Speaker ANo, he actually says, yes, Esau I hated.
Speaker ABut the Edomites have a chance to be saved, and the Edomites have a chance to be saved by being the Gentiles that are folded into the church in Acts chapter 16.
Speaker AAnd so the point I'm trying to make is that when God says that he hates Esau, it doesn't mean that Esau didn't have a chance to be effectually saved in faith.
Speaker AIt just means that God favored Jacob over Esau.
Speaker AAnd, and so what we can see in that case is that many people are going to have a hardship with that.
Speaker APaul reads into this.
Speaker APaul, Paul knows his audience.
Speaker AAnd so Paul explains all of this.
Speaker AAnd now verse 14, he says, what shall we say then?
Speaker AIs there unrighteousness with God?
Speaker ASo his expectation was that there was going to be people that said, well, this isn't right.
Speaker AYou chose some people to be used by you and other people not to be used by you.
Speaker AWhat does this mean?
Speaker AOr now you're bringing in the Gentiles.
Speaker AWhat does this mean?
Speaker AIs God not righteous?
Speaker AHe says, what shall we say then?
Speaker AIs there unrighteousness with God?
Speaker AThen he says, God forbid.
Speaker ALiterally.
Speaker AThat means kill that thought.
Speaker AGod is.
Speaker AGod is righteous.
Speaker AGod is completely holy.
Speaker AGod is right in every single way.
Speaker AAnd again, this goes back to that first question in verse number six.
Speaker AAre we allowed to ask questions to God?
Speaker ASure, but is it a sin to question the character of God?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd that's what Paul's trying to squash here.
Speaker AHe says we need to reject this idea that God has unrighteousness because he's making these decisions in his prerogative God.
Speaker AGod always does.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd so the question would be this.
Speaker ADid, did God ordain evil?
Speaker ADoes God ordain evil if he is sovereign?
Speaker AAnd, and again, we talked about that sovereignty.
Speaker AI don't believe that God ordains evil because if God ordained evil, then you might have an opportunity in verse number 14 to have a point to say, well, if God's ordaining evil, he's unrighteous.
Speaker AHe's expecting us to be righteous.
Speaker ABut if he's ordaining evil, and then he holds us accountable for what he's forcing us to do, that would be unrighteousness.
Speaker ASo verse 14, what shall we say then?
Speaker AIs there unrighteousness with God?
Speaker AGod forbid.
Speaker AAnd so again we mentioned sovereignty is, is again my, my interpretation of this is that God allows for choice but still works his plan out in this world, no matter what might be the case.
Speaker ANow Some naysayers to that idea would say, then you don't believe that God has complete providence over people and can force people to do things.
Speaker AI believe God has every right to do anything he wants to do.
Speaker AAnd God can ordain certain things to happen and will ordain certain things providentially to happen in my life.
Speaker AI mean, I can point to certain things in my life that God has done beyond my comprehension, beyond my control.
Speaker AAnd so God can do that.
Speaker ABut I also believe that God gives man the responsibility to.
Speaker ATo respond to him in faith.
Speaker AAnd so the question would be in verse 14, Is God unrighteous?
Speaker AAnd the answer obviously is no.
Speaker APaul says, definitely not.
Speaker AAnd then he goes on to explain this.
Speaker AAnd we're just going to go down, if you can stick with me, just to verse number 18.
Speaker AWe're going to go down to verse number 18 this morning.
Speaker AHe says, for he said to Moses, I will have mercy on those on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Speaker ANow, again, a lot of people use this in the concept of, well, God can save who he wants to save.
Speaker AHe can reject those who he wants to reject.
Speaker AAnd certainly he has the prerogative to do so.
Speaker ABut again, context is key.
Speaker AContext is king, right?
Speaker AAnd again, we're talking, in my opinion, in my interpretation of Romans 9, he's talking about the people that he's using for bringing forth the word of God to this world, the.
Speaker AThe people that he's elected for that service.
Speaker AAnd so what he says is, I can use anyone I want.
Speaker AHe references back to Moses.
Speaker AHe says, moses, I can have mercy on who I want to have mercy to.
Speaker AI can.
Speaker AI can have compassion on whoever I want to have compassion on.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd for many of us, we struggle with that because for many of us, we're okay with God showing compassion and mercy to people that we're comfortable with.
Speaker ABut if you remember, there was an awesome story back in the Book of Jonah.
Speaker AJonah goes to Nineveh.
Speaker AAnd remember, Jonah is not.
Speaker AA lot of people frame Jonah as being afraid of the scary Ninevites.
Speaker AAnd we understand that that might have been part of it.
Speaker ABut if, you know, Jonah actually goes back and says something very interesting, he says, God, I didn't want to go to Nineveh because I knew that if I went, you would save them.
Speaker AI know you're a God of compassion and mercy, and I didn't want to see them get saved because he had that internal struggle, that internal hate against the Ninevites, because of what they did to his people.
Speaker AAnd so what God says is I have the prerogative to save whoever I want to save.
Speaker AI have the prerogative to give anyone the opportunity to use anyone for the ministry.
Speaker AAnd remember, Jonah was not someone that wanted to go.
Speaker AGod had to get his attention.
Speaker ARemember Jonah tried to flee, gets on the, on the ship.
Speaker AYou guys know the story.
Speaker AThe storm comes, he's about to die, he's about to fall off the, they're about to all get sunk and he jumps in the water and he's swallowed by the, the great fish or the whale, however your interpretation is on that.
Speaker AAnd he goes in there for three days.
Speaker AHe comes out and he's like, okay, Lord, I'm going to go.
Speaker AAnd even while he was going, Jonah was upset.
Speaker AHe was sitting underneath the tree complaining about the shade tree that, that he loved so much.
Speaker AAnd it died.
Speaker AAnd throughout all that, God is using an unfaithful person to bring his faithfulness in the message of the truth.
Speaker ASo what Paul is saying here is this, God can use anybody for this work.
Speaker AAnd so if it's, he wants the Israelites to do that, he wants the Israelites to do that.
Speaker AIf he wants a church to do that, he wants the church to do that.
Speaker ABut he has the right to do that.
Speaker AHe is the, the all knowing Creator of everything.
Speaker ASo verse 16 he says, so then it is not of him that will it.
Speaker ASo it's not the will of man, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.
Speaker ASo in this case he's talking about showing mercy to those that are serving him.
Speaker ASo in this case he says it's not about your matter of your will.
Speaker AIt's not about like say for example, someone's like, I really want to serve God.
Speaker AI think that God's going to use me because I really want that.
Speaker AIt's not about a matter of will and he says it's not about a matter of works.
Speaker ASo, so it's not a matter of will and works when it comes to God's work in our life.
Speaker AIt's a matter of God's plan and God's work in his ultimate sovereignty to show mercy and to show compassion.
Speaker ASo it's not by will or works.
Speaker AAnd even goes on to this other passage and talks about Pharaoh, which again this is a passage of scripture verse 17 that many people use to the fact that God just doesn't allow certain people to be saved.
Speaker AAnd I want to look at verse 17 from a different perspective.
Speaker AThis is and, and later on we're going to see that he actually uses the potter and the clay analogy.
Speaker ASo I want to kind of go into that a little bit here.
Speaker ANow, verse 17, he says, for the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, even for this same purpose have I raised the up that I might show my power in the and that my name might be declared throughout all of the earth.
Speaker AAnd so reading verse 17, it says this.
Speaker AGod said to Pharaoh, I can do whatever I want with you to give me glory.
Speaker AI can allow you to rebel, I can force you to rebel, and I can use that for my glory.
Speaker AAnd so we know that Pharaoh, if you guys know the story in the book of Exodus, Pharaoh, ultimately it says in the Old Testament that God hardens his heart.
Speaker ANow there's a lot of people that look at that and say, well, that was a point where maybe Pharaoh wanted to come to, to the Lord and repent.
Speaker AAnd God just said, no, you can't.
Speaker ABut what I'm going to say is this over and over again in that story, if you remember, it says that Pharaoh hardened his heart.
Speaker APharaoh hardened his heart.
Speaker APharaoh kept hardening his heart.
Speaker AThat was his lifestyle, that was his path, that was his decision making.
Speaker AThat was his rebellion.
Speaker AAnd then eventually, what God says, okay, Pharaoh, this is what you want.
Speaker ARemember Romans, chapter one, Those that have the reprobate mind, God gives them over to their inordinate affections.
Speaker AThere's going to be a time and a place where God says, okay, that clay you are trying to mold in your own self and your rebellion and your sin.
Speaker AAnd then I'm going to harden that.
Speaker AYou guys know the principle.
Speaker AThere's a certain place in time in pottery that when it's hardened, that's the way that it's shaped and that's the way that it stays, unless it's broken.
Speaker AHe says, pharaoh, you've been rejecting me.
Speaker AYou're in rebellion to me.
Speaker AYou're living in sin.
Speaker AI'm going to harden you there and I'm going to give you over to what you want.
Speaker AThat's the hardening of Pharaoh's heart.
Speaker AAnd so in my opinion, it's now that God went against Pharaoh's will and said, pharaoh, maybe you want me, maybe you don't want me, but I'm going to harden your heart.
Speaker AHe says, pharaoh, this is what you want.
Speaker AI'm going to harden you in that and ultimately use your bad decisions for my glory.
Speaker ADid you know that God can use the bad decisions of those that are unsaved for his glory?
Speaker AIt doesn't make any sense to us.
Speaker ABut in the concept of the picture of God's sovereignty, if people are going to sin, people are going to be in rebellion.
Speaker AGod says, I can use that for my glory.
Speaker AGod can use anything for his glory.
Speaker AGod can use pain and brokenness and sadness for his glory.
Speaker AThat doesn't match in our framework of thinking.
Speaker ABut what it does mean is this, that God is so powerful and he's above all, and he's in all, and he's through all that.
Speaker AWe cannot put a box around him to try to explain this is the way that he should be.
Speaker AAnd so God essentially think about it this way.
Speaker AWith the hardening of Pharaoh's heart, God set Pharaoh in his way.
Speaker AAnd that was the way of rebellion.
Speaker AHe says, okay, Pharaoh, I'm going to give you over to your way.
Speaker AAnd we know that no man can be saved.
Speaker AWe know that no man can come to repentance without the power of God in his life.
Speaker ASo by the way, one.
Speaker AOne side of the coin is this.
Speaker AIf you don't believe in complete determinism and sovereignty in that regard, some people will say, well, does that mean that you believe that man just finds God on their own strength?
Speaker ABecause that's usually the two sides of the coin that everyone argues.
Speaker AEither God forces you or you just do it all on your own, folks.
Speaker AI don't believe that either one of those are true.
Speaker AI believe that God awakens our heart in the spirit and we have an opportunity to respond to him in faith.
Speaker AYou cannot get saved without the Holy Spirit, cannot get saved without the mercy of God.
Speaker AYou cannot find grace, you cannot find forgiveness.
Speaker AYou cannot find everlasting life without the power of God.
Speaker ABut what the Bible says is that when God pulls his hand off of an individual in rebellion, the there's no chance for them to be saved.
Speaker ANot because God forces them, but because.
Speaker ABecause God is giving them over to what they desire.
Speaker AAnd that's what we see here with Pharaoh.
Speaker AHe says, there's going to be some that make bad decisions.
Speaker AThere's going to be some that make good decisions.
Speaker AThere's going to be some make bad decisions.
Speaker ABut either way, God uses that for his good.
Speaker AAnd then he says in verse number 18, therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and of whom he will heart, and in whom he will he hardeneth.
Speaker AMeaning this.
Speaker AIt's God's decision who he extends mercy to.
Speaker AIt's God's decision who he allows to stay in their sin.
Speaker AIt's God's decision to say, you Know what?
Speaker AThis person is going this path.
Speaker AI'm going to allow him to go that path.
Speaker AYou would say, where is that in Scripture?
Speaker AIf you go back to Romans chapter one, that's exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker ARomans chapter one.
Speaker AHe says, you have to be saved through Jesus Christ.
Speaker ABut there's going to be some people that are so turned over to their sin that God's going to allow them to go to the reprobate minds.
Speaker AAnd so what we can see here is that it's God's plan and it's his discernment and it's his wisdom, and it's his power and mercy and grace that changes the life of an individual.
Speaker AAnd so verse 18 is essentially a restatement of the whole concept that he's saying here is this.
Speaker AYou can have mercy, but the only way you can find mercy is Jesus Christ.
Speaker AThe only way that you can find the truth of Jesus is through falling before him and calling out for his mercy.
Speaker ASo God uses repentance for his glory.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ARepentant hearts are what brings mercy and grace.
Speaker AThink about it.
Speaker AI don't think God has to work in certain frameworks.
Speaker AHe can do whatever he wants to do, but he gives us his word.
Speaker AAnd what does he say in the New Testament?
Speaker AHe gives grace to the humble, he resists the prideful.
Speaker AAnd so what we can see here is that God gets glory through when folks come to him in repentance and he extends mercy, extends grace, he extends compassion.
Speaker ABut then the other side of things is like people will look and say, well, what about all these people that are in sin over here that doesn't give God glory.
Speaker AThat shows that God's not all powerful.
Speaker ANo, because just as much as God gives mercy and grace to those that are repentant and he gets glory, those people over here that in rebellion that find judgment and pain and eventually separation for him, that gives him glory as well.
Speaker ASo the idea would be this, forgive me for the cliche, but it's a win win situation for God.
Speaker AThose that follow him and obey him are going to find mercy and grace and he gets the glory.
Speaker AThose that reject him find judgment and separation from him and he gets the glory.
Speaker AAnd that's what Paul is saying here is he says God decides that and he makes that statement of basically this, he's going to give mercy to whom he's going to give mercy and he's going to harden those that he's going to harden for the work of the election of the truth of the Word of God.
Speaker ASo what does that mean?
Speaker AIt means this, maybe in a practical way.
Speaker AToday, we, we as the church, have the responsibility to pass forward the oracles of God.
Speaker AHe's going to talk continuously in Romans 9, 10 and 11 about Israel's rebellion, Israel's hardness of their heart.
Speaker AIsrael's basically their, their opportunity that they rejected Christ.
Speaker AAnd then he goes on, he's going to Talk in Romans 12 through the end of the chapter, that we as the church today, whether we be of the lineage of Abraham or we be of the lineage of someone else, we ultimately are part of the family of God.
Speaker AAnd therefore we're grafted in and we're going to be used for that elective purpose to serve him and to present the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Speaker AAnd so that's one interpretation of Romans Chapter nine.
Speaker AThere's, there's, there's a handful of interpretations that we could look at, but I think that that's one of the good contextual representations of Romans chapter 9.
Speaker AWhen you look at Romans chapter 1 all the way through and actually the whole Bible through in context, I know it's a lot of information.
Speaker ASo what can we take away today in application?
Speaker ABecause I think a lot of times what we do is we look at a passage of Scripture and if there's a lot of theology, we kind of think like, well, there's no application.
Speaker ALike, it's just me knowing more about the Bible.
Speaker ABut I'm going to say that there's always application.
Speaker ASo Romans chapter 9, verses 6 through 18.
Speaker AWhat's the application?
Speaker AWell, it starts in verse number 6.
Speaker ANot as though the word of God have taken on effect.
Speaker AGod has not failed us.
Speaker AGod has not failed Israel.
Speaker AThis is part of God's plan.
Speaker AGod is allowing certain things to happen so that his glory can be seen.
Speaker AThen we go to verse 14.
Speaker AWhat shall we say then?
Speaker AIs there unrighteousness with God?
Speaker ANo, God forbid.
Speaker AGod is perfectly righteous.
Speaker AThere's no sin in his heart, there's no evil in his mind.
Speaker AThere's no bad decisions that he makes.
Speaker AUltimately, he has the wisdom to make the decisions of mercy and make the decisions of grace and make the decisions of hardening and make the decisions of separation and judgment.
Speaker AAnd then verse 18, he has mercy on those who have mercy.
Speaker AWe have to love the mercy of God.
Speaker AWe started with Ephesians chapter two this morning.
Speaker AIt says, but God, who is rich in mercy, there's other passages of Scripture.
Speaker AOne in the book of Lamentations, I believe it's Lamentations 3:23 that says that his mercies are new every morning.
Speaker AI think what we have to do is instead of questioning God, celebrate His mercy.
Speaker ANow, what is mercy?
Speaker AMercy is God's withholding of judgment that we deserve.
Speaker AAll of us deserve God's judgment.
Speaker AAll of us deserve punishment.
Speaker AAll of us don't deserve the opportunity to be part of the work of God.
Speaker ABut yet it's because of his mercy we have all that we have.
Speaker AAnd so we have to celebrate the mercy of God.
Speaker AWe have to live out the mercy of God.
Speaker AWe have to wake up every morning knowing that what I have, I don't deserve and what I do deserve, I don't get.
Speaker AAnd therefore I must be thankful to the Lord and not question him and not get to the place of, well, that person's being saved.
Speaker AWhy they don't deserve that.
Speaker AThey aren't a good person.
Speaker AThey, they were mean to me or they.
Speaker AThey were rejecting me.
Speaker AInstead of getting into that battlefield of the mind saying, lord, if you do it, I don't question you, Lord, I trust you.
Speaker AAnd so for the people of Israel at that time, they're like, lord, what's going on?
Speaker AYou said that we're your chosen people, and now many people aren't believing.
Speaker AIs your plan failing?
Speaker AWhy are you calling these people?
Speaker ADid you not call Abraham?
Speaker ADid you not call Isaac?
Speaker ADid you not call Jacob?
Speaker AAnd he says, yes, I did call them.
Speaker ABut ultimately I'm using these bad decisions for my good work.
Speaker AAnd there's going to be people that are hardened, there's going to be people that are used.
Speaker AAnd at the end of the day, it's ultimately that God is sovereignly in control.
Speaker AAnd so some people will say, well, if you don't believe in unconditional election, which means basically God chooses some at the beginning of time and chooses others at the beginning of the time to be saved and unsaved.
Speaker AIf you don't believe in that, you don't believe in God's sovereignty.
Speaker AI would say that that's a misnomer.
Speaker AI would say that we can believe that God gives people a chance.
Speaker ANow, does God know who's going to do what?
Speaker AOf course he knows.
Speaker ABut at the end of the day, we know that God allows for the individual representation of that person to either be in faith or in rebellion.
Speaker AThat doesn't limit God's sovereignty.
Speaker AI think it actually displays God's sovereignty even more that he can allow individuals who can love him to love him and use those people for his work.
Speaker AAnd he allows people to make a choice to come to love him but yet in rebellion, he can use them for his glory as well.
Speaker AJust as he used Pharaoh for his glory, just as he used Abraham for his glory.
Speaker AAnd I will say this, and I think this is very, very important to understand.
Speaker ASome people will say, well, why, why does God not just force all of us to be saved?
Speaker AWe can get down that rabbit trail.
Speaker AWhy did God put the tree in the garden?
Speaker AWhy did God allow Satan to come and tempt?
Speaker AAnd I'm going to boil it down to this.
Speaker AIt's a matter of love.
Speaker ABecause love always has a choice.
Speaker AAnd in a choice always comes a risk.
Speaker ALike I, like when I asked my wife to marry me, there was a risk there because I'm extending myself saying, hey, I love you, I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
Speaker AAnd she could have said yes, no, maybe, wait, she could have said a lot of different things.
Speaker AThere's always a risk with love.
Speaker AAnd so some would say, well, the God risk.
Speaker AWell again, we're not God and God's mind's above our mind.
Speaker AGod's not bound by space and time.
Speaker AGod's not bound by our human limitations.
Speaker ABut in so doing, God allows for that choice of love so that we can have a real relationship with him, not a robotic relationship where he doesn't force us to love him.
Speaker AHe, he allows us to love him.
Speaker AAnd then there are going to be times when God forces us to do things.
Speaker AThere's going to be times when God's providential hand comes in.
Speaker AAnd we see that through the oracles of God, meaning the line in which the world can see God through.
Speaker ANow today we as the church have the opportunity to be the pillar and ground of truth.
Speaker AAnd so what we have to understand is that no one else is going to bring the truth of God back.
Speaker AIn the Old Testament it was the Israelites responsibility.
Speaker AIt was the Israelite.
Speaker AAnd what God would condemn them on is this, that they would come and remember.
Speaker AThey would get, get involved with the world.
Speaker AThey would get involved with the pagans.
Speaker AThey, they, they would actually adopt certain things that the pagans were doing.
Speaker AAnd they weren't doing the job of proclaiming God to the world.
Speaker AAnd we as the church had that same responsibility.
Speaker AWe have the responsibility to proclaim the word of God to the world and not be compromising in our worship, not be compromising in our lifestyles, not being in the way of the world, but being separate from the world, knowing that we have a purpose.
Speaker AAnd that purpose is to proclaim the gospel to all the world and be faithful to him and be thankful that he has selected us for that purpose of service to him.
Speaker AAnd so that's something that I want us to think about all as we come back in Romans chapter nine.
Speaker ANext week, we're going to look more into this idea of selection for service.
Speaker AAnd he's going to talk more about the.
Speaker AThe potter and the clay, and we'll get through it.
Speaker AAnd we're going to see in Romans chapter 10 that he does explain Israel's rejection to Christ.
Speaker AIt's important to talk about today.
Speaker AHe talks about how we should preach to difficult people, disobedient people.
Speaker AThen ultimately he talks about In Romans chapter 11, the remnant and the branches that are grafted in the covenant that God has with Israel.
Speaker AAnd ultimately the glory that is found in God through this.
Speaker AThese promises that are being kept.
Speaker AAnd then, so Romans 9, 10, and 11 are that parenthetical statement to Israel.
Speaker AAnd then we jump right back In Romans chapter 12, talking about the application of everything that we've heard so far in Romans.
Speaker AAnd so I hope that you can stay with us in the study.
Speaker AI know that today was a little bit heavier, but I think that there were some particular things that we all can speak to when it comes to that area of mercy.
Speaker AHow many of us are hungry for God's mercy in our lives?
Speaker AAs I close here this morning, I want you to think about that.
Speaker AI want you to think about the mercy of God and what it means to you.
Speaker AWhat do I deserve?
Speaker AWell, I'm a pretty good person.
Speaker AGo back to Romans.
Speaker AWhat is it?
Speaker AWhat does the Roman.
Speaker AWhat does the Book of Romans say about being a good person?
Speaker AThere is none good.
Speaker ANo, not one.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AWell, you know what?
Speaker AMaybe, maybe my.
Speaker AMy good.
Speaker AMy is good.
Speaker AI mean, I'm not perfectly good, but maybe my good outweighs my bad.
Speaker AAnd maybe I haven't done really, really bad stuff.
Speaker AThe Bible says, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God for the wages or the payment of sin is what, death?
Speaker AWell, not my sin, no.
Speaker AFor the wages of all sin.
Speaker AAny sin I commit is death.
Speaker ABut the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Speaker AWe need that mercy.
Speaker AAll of us saved, unsaved, saved for five days, saved for 50 years.
Speaker AWe, we all are in desperate need of God's mercy in our life.
Speaker AIt's not by our will, it's not by our work, it's not by our lineage, it's not by any of those things.
Speaker AIt's through Jesus Christ that we can find that mercy.
Speaker AAnd Grace.
Speaker AAnd then once we're saved, we don't.
Speaker AWe're not done with mercy every day.
Speaker AHis mercies are new every day.
Speaker AAnd some of you understand this physical pain, spiritual pain, emotional pain, can drive us away from that mercy and be so bitter and so angry and so.
Speaker ASo separated from Him.
Speaker ABut folks, we have to go back and say, no, he is righteous.
Speaker ANot what I feel, but what I know, what I know about him and his word, that he is good, that he is faithful, that he is just, that he is righteous, that he has been faithful to me, he's been faithful to Israel, he's been faithful to Abraham, he's been faithful to Isaac, he's faithful to Jacob, he's faithful all the way through.
Speaker AAnd just as he was faithful to those who are before.
Speaker ARomans 8.
Speaker ARemember, just because we know all things work together for good through the them that love God, then we were called according to his purpose.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's it summarized right there.
Speaker AAnd so what we have to understand is this.
Speaker AJust as God has been faithful before, he will be faithful today, he will be faithful tomorrow.
Speaker AAnd we can trust in that.
Speaker AAnd we can rest in his mercy and his grace.
Speaker AAnd so the question I want to leave you with is, number one, are you hungry for God's mercy?
Speaker ANumber two, are you resting in God's mercy?
Speaker AAre you thankful for God's mercy?
Speaker AAnd are you willing to extend that mercy to those around you as God has gifted us with that mercy in our lives?
Speaker AWell, let's go ahead and pray.
Speaker AEveryone, if you can, every head bowed, every eye closed, if you can stand with me.
Speaker AWe're going to have a time of invitation, a time of response.
Speaker AI know we've thrown out a lot of information today, probably too much information for all of us to gather completely in.
Speaker ABut what I will say is that I know that to some degree, God has spoken to us in one way or the other, whether it be in the areas of mercy, whether it be in the areas of God's election, whether it be in the areas of service.
Speaker ABecause remember, when the Bible says that we are elected for this cause, it's not just a matter of salvation, but it's also a matter of service.
Speaker AAnd God has called us to serve.
Speaker AWe're saved to serve, not serving to be saved.
Speaker AAnd so maybe for you, it's God's working your heart.
Speaker AWhere is my role in this election?
Speaker AWhere's my role in this process?
Speaker AAm I serving Him?
Speaker AAm I loving him?
Speaker AAm I dedicated to him in.
Speaker AIn mercy?
Speaker AAm I questioning God's decision making.
Speaker AMy question is compassion.
Speaker ASome of you maybe even say I I say this.
Speaker AI'm trying not to preach another message, but this is something I'm struggling with right now.
Speaker AGuys, let me tell you, confession time.
Speaker AI have a struggle with people that are against God's word and having compassion for them because I want the judgment hand to come down.
Speaker AI want people to answer for their sin.
Speaker ABut folks, if we have the character of Christ, we must have compassion.
Speaker AIt's not our job to enact justice.
Speaker AIt's our job to enact the gospel to them.
Speaker AThe Lord will do the work of vengeance.
Speaker AThe Lord will do the work of judgment.
Speaker AWe do the work of the gospel.
Speaker ASo maybe that's something in our hearts that we grow in that compassion.
Speaker AMaybe we would have the heart of Paul when Paul said, lord, I I want my people to come to know you even if they are in rebellion.
Speaker AMay we do everything that we possibly can to bring that message of the Gospel to the lost and dying world.
Speaker ALord, I pray that you be in this time of invitation, working hearts and lives.
Speaker AAllow us to follow you in obedience, to follow you, follow your plan, your purpose and your service that you have called us to live in in our lives.
Speaker ALord, we thank you for your grace.
Speaker AWe're thankful for the hope of the Gospel.
Speaker AWe're thankful for the call to be your people, to serve and to proclaim the message of the truth to this lost and dying world during this time.
Speaker ASo we ask all these things in Jesus name, Amen.
Speaker AAs the music plays, follow as the Lord leads.
Speaker AThis morning, if you need Jesus as your Savior, come forward.
Speaker AWe can show you in the Word.
Speaker AIf not, come forward and rededicate yourself to his mercy here this morning.
Speaker AThank you again for listening to the Middletown Baptist Church Podcast.
Speaker AI hope that this sermon has been a blessing for you.
Speaker AIf you would like to find out more information about our church or this sermon, you can find us at middletownbaptistchurch.org or find us on Facebook or YouTube.
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Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker AGod Bless.
Speaker AHave a wonderful day.






































































































































































